Media bias towards certain clubs

[gazzaa2]

In games I can think of, off the too if my head. We were denied a penalty against RS, that was identical to penalty that was given to us at Brighton. They were given an offside goal against us at Anfield. Foul in build up to 2nd goal vs West Ham, Konate should of been sent off vs Wolves. VVD should of been sent off against Fulham. Last season Nunez committed 3 bookable offences vs United he didn't get sent off for, Dalot gets sent off for less than Nunez did. Media bias towards RS is no joke, Tarkowski and his family received death threats as did Pickford and his family. It isn't a joke, how 2 challenges without any intent were treated as serious assaults. Dick Van Dykes challenge on Onana was a leg breaker, yet nobody in media besmerched his character like Tarkowski and Pickford. Sons challenge on Gomes was deliberate, he tried to snap him moments before. "But he's not that type of player". So it's fine.

Plenty of decisions went our way in the two derbies. Slot nearly had a coronary at Goodison. Tarkowski challenge was objectively a red card in today's game. The media fury afterwards is another story that fits into the thread, not to mention the behaviour of their fans.

The law is stupid but by the letter of the law the goal wasn't offside at Anfield.

Not every decision goes the way of either team. Fans just expect that them to.

 

[PITA]

Journalists write to earn money - they earn more money if people read what they write - write about the people with the biggest draw and you get more readers/views/clicks and thus earn more money.
Fairness doesn't pay the bills.

Thanks for that 'lesson'. Now answer the question - is it fair that such teams get softer decisions?

 

[Jamalio Danubio DiCanio]

Literally every teams fans think the refs are biased against them, the written media hates them and TV/comms don’t like them. Conversely every teams fans think the refs, media and TV love a team that dislike.

Look on every teams forums or on Twitter and every team’s fans will be saying the same.

Doesn’t mean certain teams shouldn’t have grievances. A good example is Wolves. They’ve been screwed by refs over last 12-18 months. I don’t think there’s a conspiracy against Wolves or that there’s a pro-WBA faction in PGMOL out to get Wolves.

I think we all selectivity remember or emphasise certain things that go against our team or for certain other teams. It’s human nature to do so. Rightly or wrongly it’s natural for some to then take that further into some sort of conspiracy theory.

I personally don’t think there’s some underlying conspiracy to favour certain teams or disfavour others. I do think the biggest 3 clubs in terms of supporter base this country get more favourable media and TV attention. Other clubs get ignored in comparison. A complaint City fans have long had. But it’s hardly surprising since they generate more clicks, more eyeballs watching games etc. It’s all part of the monetisation and commercialism of football. It’s something I don’t like but that’s top level football now.

 

[JelavicBrate2]

Plenty of decisions went our way in the two derbies. Slot nearly had a coronary at Goodison. Tarkowski challenge was objectively a red card in today's game. The media fury afterwards is another story that fits into the thread, not to mention the behaviour of their fans.

The law is stupid but by the letter of the law the goal wasn't offside at Anfield.

Not every decision goes the way of either team. Fans just expect that them to.

I agree, not every mistake made by a ref, is the result of corruption. Rodwell getting sent off and Hutchinsons disallowed goal weren't corrupt decisions, just mistakes. When City scored when ball was out of play in league cup semi final is wasn't corruption, City were denied 2 clear penalties against us in previous 2 matches. Before VAR decisions largely evened themselves out and were result on honest mistakes, only Clattenburgs performance in derby I viewed as corrupt. I don't think there's a grand conspiracy amongst refs to favour RS or any other team, last season's ref at GP, was completely fair. However I do think some refs, make wrong decisions to fit a narrative, such as Oliver ignoring VAR officials advice and ignoring a blatant handball in build up to Arsenals 2nd goal. Referees know that if they give decision against RS or United, it will receive huge amounts of media coverage.

 

[MACCA75]

Forest had won the European Cup twice before Ferguson's reign. Nothing like the coverage that United got in the late 70s/early 80s.

United are a big club mate. They have huge fanbase. It’s not a conspiracy. They have been a very big club since the 50’s especially. Not sure what’s hard to understand. They won the European Cup long before Forest.

 

[MACCA75]

It's not tin foil hat stuff, RS constantly get decisions in their favour. I've just given you examples, we got a penalty at Brighton for exactly the same thing Konate did in derby. Clattenburgs decisions in derby weren't honest mistakes, they were conscious decisions to favour RS. Some on here think that corruption only exists in countries people are called Lazar, Muhammed, Dimitri and Adetole. Comforting as this view may be, it's a delusional view to have.

The goal at Anfield wasn’t offside, I wanted it to be, but it just wasn’t. Read the rules before wetting yourself on the internet.

 

[PITA]

United are a big club mate. They have huge fanbase. It’s not a conspiracy. They have been a very big club since the 50’s especially. Not sure what’s hard to understand. They won the European Cup long before Forest.

I accept that but it doesn’t entitle them to get ‘softer decisions’.

 

[zzebra]

Why does every single TV game that doesn't involve the RS does the commentator always have to shoehorn in a random obscure reference to them every 10 minutes?

"Such and such a team are playing a slightly different formation to the one they played against the RS earlier in the season..."

" Such and such a player was once on the RS books....?"

" That pass was similar to such and such a RS player's pass in their 4-0 victory over Spurs last weekend that saw them go 10 point's clear at the top....."

There are literally hundreds of bizarre references to them that no other club gets.

It's as though they have got to make them relevant to every single aspect of football.

 

[Walter Ego]

Here’s a thing. Did you know that approximately 75% of Premier League football fans both in England and the rest of the world support either Man United or Liverpool. They know who their customer base is.

 

[NathDogg]

I think it does have an impact that they are so infested at every level of media, anything against them is enormously blown up unlike any other team and then they have everything go their way for several games as it puts pressure on the refs. You then see their players rarely booked, missing blatant sending offs and they'll given numerous penalties.

I reckon we also suffer as anything we do or get away with is blown up in the kopite media, as they'll love to take digs at us and it'll be to target clicks from their fans; Pickford's and Tarkowski's tackles leading to death threats, Doucoure's celebration which then led to racist abuse, we then see us hardly getting any decisions in games and VAR overturning blatantly obvious decisions that should have gone our way.

I unsubscribed from Sky about 15 years ago when I watched a derby game and it was all about them feeling like Kopite TV. All the other broadcasters are just as bad... Michael Owen on commentary? just why?

These days BBC is just as bad, maybe they do it for the clicks but they constantly have stories about them so I avoid that too.

I stick to here, Everton fan podcasts and Athletic stories.

Wouldn’t bother with the pathetic mate, it’s a glorified RS fanzine written by a load of RS grifters.

on the topic, the bias to certain clubs isn’t just limited to the media, where it has gotten totally out of control now, there is no objective reporting anymore regarding the RS or united.

There was no mention anywhere of the macallister foul before the corner and about the push van Bader made on fulcrig to win the header to score - nothing at all, just media spaffing over the hero winning the game after his massive cock up, and not the only one they got away with. It’s a joke.

United get a bit more stick atm, but for a team in their position to still have the nonsense reported about them is just absurd. They are also still getting really mad decisions in their favour, just like the RS have.

The bias and corruption is clear in the premier league and at PGMOL - it isn’t mistakes, it’s match fixing, and the media have a massive part to play in aiding and abetting this narrative.

 

[gazzaa2]

I agree, not every mistake made by a ref, is the result of corruption. Rodwell getting sent off and Hutchinsons disallowed goal weren't corrupt decisions, just mistakes. When City scored when ball was out of play in league cup semi final is wasn't corruption, City were denied 2 clear penalties against us in previous 2 matches. Before VAR decisions largely evened themselves out and were result on honest mistakes, only Clattenburgs performance in derby I viewed as corrupt. I don't think there's a grand conspiracy amongst refs to favour RS or any other team, last season's ref at GP, was completely fair. However I do think some refs, make wrong decisions to fit a narrative, such as Oliver ignoring VAR officials advice and ignoring a blatant handball in build up to Arsenals 2nd goal. Referees know that if they give decision against RS or United, it will receive huge amounts of media coverage.

I think VAR has had a really bad effect on referees. It allows them to bottle decisions or leave it to VAR and hide behind clear and obvious if they are on VAR. Oliver used to be a decent ref, he's just really bad now.

Clattenberg's performance is remembered because such a dodgy performance, with all the decisions going one way, is rare. That must be pushing 20 years ago and is still clearly remembered for it. VAR would have been forced to step in.

At the same time more people don't like Liverpool or United than support them, so plenty will highlight decisions that go their way. Problem is Sky pack their Super Sundays or Monday Night Football with Liverpool and United fans.

 

[gazzaa2]

Wouldn’t bother with the pathetic mate, it’s a glorified RS fanzine written by a load of RS grifters.

on the topic, the bias to certain clubs isn’t just limited to the media, where it has gotten totally out of control now, there is no objective reporting anymore regarding the RS or united.

There was no mention anywhere of the macallister foul before the corner and about the push van Bader made on fulcrig to win the header to score - nothing at all, just media spaffing over the hero winning the game after his massive cock up, and not the only one they got away with. It’s a joke.

United get a bit more stick atm, but for a team in their position to still have the nonsense reported about them is just absurd. They are also still getting really mad decisions in their favour, just like the RS have.

The bias and corruption is clear in the premier league and at PGMOL - it isn’t mistakes, it’s match fixing, and the media have a massive part to play in aiding and abetting this narrative.

They might if it was a close race. In reality even Arsenal gave up on the league weeks ago so nobody is really bothered. Man United was the main game later and they lost so that's the narrative.

 

[summerisle]

Takes some doing this.

 

[MACCA75]

Here’s a thing. Did you know that approximately 75% of Premier League football fans both in England and the rest of the world support either Man United or Liverpool. They know who their customer base is.

You are going to have to provide a source for that, as no way is it that high.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Takes some doing this.

To be fair, that's never a match report. I suspect it's just opinion piece on Forest, responding to the topical point "Can Forest hold on to a Champions League place"