Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

[sageyefc]

We should get Bilic in...oh no, he lost 5-2 o aggregate last night. Cross him off the fantasy list. And De Boer...Ajax lost. That's him off the list too.

Some of the shouts people are making about of who to replace him are crazy

 

[marty mcfly]

Brave ground slating McCarthy.

I've been there and it doesn't end well.

Hardly his fault when he has to do the work for Barry and the defence too.

I'm not slating him. I'm saying he's not a 20m pound player.

He's worth about 15m. That's still one of our most expensive players if we where to put realistic prices on our whole team.

 

[Saint Domingo]

The reality is Martinez will stay because we have a set of fans contented by one home win in 2015. As long as there's full houses at Goodison Kenwright does not give one flying one. He will hold on investing nothing raking in the tv money until his big pay day eventually comes in.

The fans of yesteryear, the ones who actually gave one about a winning Everton side and not just content with happy clapping everything to prove they're a 'boss blue', stayed away. They threw cushions then they stayed away. Why are people still giving money to Kenwright? Full houses just show we are happy with Martinez. I'm not turning up to another game that this clown is in charge of unless he takes an ego check and changes his ridiculous behaviour.

Fans of other clubs would have done domething by now. All we did was shush the booers and cringily sing the school of science after we beat a shambolic Newcastle side.

We get the club we demand. Sadly we're no longer trophy winning fans. We dont demand anything apart from just about staying in the league.

 

[toffee matt]

The reality is Martinez will stay because we have a set of fans contented by one home win in 2015. As long as there's full houses at Goodison Kenwright does not give one flying one. He will hold on investing nothing raking in the tv money until his big pay day eventually comes in.

The fans of yesteryear, the ones who actually gave one about a winning Everton side and not just content with happy clapping everything to prove they're a 'boss blue', stayed away. They threw cushions then they stayed away. Why are people still giving money to Kenwright? Full houses just show we are happy with Martinez. I'm not turning up to another game that this clown is in charge of unless he takes an ego check and changes his ridiculous behaviour.

Fans of other clubs would have done domething by now. All we did was shush the booers and cringily sing the school of science after we beat a shambolic Newcastle side.

We get the club we demand. Sadly we're no longer trophy winning fans. We dont demand anything apart from just about staying in the league.

I don't think you'll find a single Everton fan happy with one home win in 2015

 

[ijjysmith]

The reality is Martinez will stay because we have a set of fans contented by one home win in 2015. As long as there's full houses at Goodison Kenwright does not give one flying one. He will hold on investing nothing raking in the tv money until his big pay day eventually comes in.

The fans of yesteryear, the ones who actually gave one about a winning Everton side and not just content with happy clapping everything to prove they're a 'boss blue', stayed away. They threw cushions then they stayed away. Why are people still giving money to Kenwright? Full houses just show we are happy with Martinez. I'm not turning up to another game that this clown is in charge of unless he takes an ego check and changes his ridiculous behaviour.

Fans of other clubs would have done domething by now. All we did was shush the booers and cringily sing the school of science after we beat a shambolic Newcastle side.

We get the club we demand. Sadly we're no longer trophy winning fans. We dont demand anything apart from just about staying in the league.

Now a lot of this I can agree with.

He won't be sacked. Even though at just about every other so called big club he defintiely would have been.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I think a few months ago i'd have agreed. But to make the same errors over and over, is stupidity. I don't like saying it but it's the way it is.

He must honestly believe that at some point it'll all click into place

It's more a stubborn belief in his tactics than stupidity. In my eyes anyway

 

[davek]

Davek , I have said all along I wanted him to do well, with the age of the squad it was always going to be harder this season,
And I agree with you there seems to be one or two players undermining him, Distan for one, but at xmas the way the season was going we needed a few in to
Give us a pick up, he failed to act, since then it's gone from bad to worse and he hasn't reacted well to it at all, if he was learning from it and altering I would give him the
The benfit of the doubt but it don't look like it.
Hope I'm wrong and it all goes well , but I just don't see it on current form

Christmas: Martinez had an 'Everton January window'. There just isn't a willingness to spend cash at that point.

The thing is we won the last two games before last night and everyone is saying it's on the strength of Martinez learning. When we get beat like last night that goes out the window and it's proof of the reverse.

It's a poor poor season. We aren't going to win every game. If we beat QPR on Sunday I'd look back on the previous four games and think "3 wins out of 4 games...that's an indicator something is going right at last". Anyone would/should.

I dont know why this season continues to generate so much heat. It's been a terrible season, yes, but we're not going down, so let's write it off and demand mistakes are learnt from.

I cant see for the life of me what demanding a manager's removal does to advance us now. I'd rather have the manager who made them in there rectifying the mistakes than some outsider who'll take another two seasons to get us on track...if they can.

 

[ijjysmith]

He must honestly believe that at some point it'll all click into place

It's more a stubborn belief in his tactics than stupidity. In my eyes anyway

Bit of both for me

 

[marty mcfly]

The reality is Martinez will stay because we have a set of fans contented by one home win in 2015. As long as there's full houses at Goodison Kenwright does not give one flying one. He will hold on investing nothing raking in the tv money until his big pay day eventually comes in.

The fans of yesteryear, the ones who actually gave one about a winning Everton side and not just content with happy clapping everything to prove they're a 'boss blue', stayed away. They threw cushions then they stayed away. Why are people still giving money to Kenwright? Full houses just show we are happy with Martinez. I'm not turning up to another game that this clown is in charge of unless he takes an ego check and changes his ridiculous behaviour.

Fans of other clubs would have done domething by now. All we did was shush the booers and cringily sing the school of science after we beat a shambolic Newcastle side.

We get the club we demand. Sadly we're no longer trophy winning fans. We dont demand anything apart from just about staying in the league.

If that's the case then I would expect some movement on the stadium in the summer because that's the only way Kenwright will ever see his payday. I can only see us drop below the likes of not only Spurs and Liverpool but also West Ham and Southampton for the next few seasons.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

We'll see anyway, should we stay up

 

[Saint Domingo]

I don't think you'll find a single Everton fan happy with one home win in 2015

Didn't show any discontent though did they? Applauding the team off the pitch for not getting battered by Liverpool in the most cowardly home derby i can remember. Standing ovations for players after the Newcastle game. It's a joke.

 

[Home and Dry]

We've got a good squad,who are playing below average, in a rubbish league!
You do need luck to go your way sometimes and hindsight is a wonderful thing.(Alcaraz did play well on Sunday but should have been taken off at half time). Robles shouldn't have been binned off when Howard was fit either btw.
It's hard to defend RM atm (something our back 4 (or was it 5) couldn't do either) but we need to see how we perform on Sunday to see what reaction from the players we get. Then, I think we'll know.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

If that's the case then I would expect some movement on the stadium in the summer because that's the only way Kenwright will ever see his payday. I can only see us drop below the likes of not only Spurs and Liverpool but also West Ham and Southampton for the next few seasons.

We're going to struggle next season because we're definately going to lose some players

Hopefully we won't lose them all

Maybe the best we can hope for next season is a top half finish with possibly a cup run thrown in?

The worst we can expect, based on this season, is relegation

 

[davek]

Now a lot of this I can agree with.

He won't be sacked. Even though at just about every other so called big club he defintiely would have been.

You say that as if it's something to be ashamed of. The very reverse is true.

 

[marty mcfly]

Didn't show any discontent though did they? Applauding the team off the pitch for not getting battered by Liverpool in the most cowardly home derby i can remember. Standing ovations for players after the Newcastle game. It's a joke.

I was at that game and I don't remember applauding the team off the pitch after Liverpool. If there ever was a meh game that was it.