Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

[Deleted member 24970]

Baines = Pistone
Jags = Mazeterreezzzi
Barkley = Dacourt
Lukaku = Radzinski
Mirallas = Alexanderson

I hate you x

 

[roydo]

Struggling to think of a single "successful" manager of either Glasgow club to come south and do well actually. Walker was just the latest new big thing at the time.

 

[Goat]

People often overlook the quality signings Walter made, mainly due to the fact that he had to sell them sharpish cos PJ pulled the plug.

29 Jul 1998 John Collins AS Monaco £2.5M
27 Jul 1998 Olivier Dacourt RC Strasbourg £4M
15 Jul 1998 Marco Materazzi Perugia £2.5M
31 Jul 1998 David Unsworth Aston Villa £3M
18 Jul 2000 Niclas Alexandersson Sheffield Wednesday £2.2M
16 Feb 1999 David Weir Heart of Midlothian £200k
24 Mar 1999 Kevin Campbell Trabsonspor On Loan
18 May 1999 Richard Gough San Jose Clash Free
2 Aug 1999 Craig Short Blackburn Rovers £2.1M
30 Jun 2000 Alessandro Pistone Newcastle £3M
14 Jul 2000 Don Hutchison Sunderland £2.5M
24 Jul 2000 Thomas Gravesen SV Hamburg £2.5M
17 Jul 2001 Tomasz Radzinski RSC Anderlecht £4.5M
31 Jan 2002 Tobias Linderoth Stabaek £2.5M*
17 Aug 2000 Duncan Ferguson Newcastle United £3.75M

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

We were garbage pretty much from 1993 all the way to 2004, excluding for the 95/96 season when Royle had the Dogs of War firing for one hope giving season

 

[Allezfan]

David Moyes is the answer, smith was bad i agree.

There's a natural conservatism about football fans.

When smith was here the talk was 'who could do better given the board' and then we hired Moyes and (dodgy second season aside) found out that actually someone could do better.

Then when the moyes regime went sour, you heard the same 'who could do better, given the board' and then we hired Martinez and we did better in his first season here. We're having another dodgy second season but last season proved that the moyes years were not the very pinnacle of what was possible.

I don't have any time at all for Smith, tbh. Bad managers blame the circumstances, good managers win games.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Struggling to think of a single "successful" manager of either Glasgow club to come south and do well actually. Walker was just the latest new big thing at the time.

O'Neill had success with leicester Pre Celtic and reasonable success with Villa post Celtic

Neil Lennon will be managing in the Premier League within the next 2-3 years, either with Bolton or someone else

 

[Allezfan]

O'Neill had success with leicester Pre Celtic and reasonable success with Villa post Celtic

Yeah, O'Neill is your best example, I think.

 

[Goat]

There's a natural conservatism about football fans.

When smith was here the talk was 'who could do better given the board' and then we hired Moyes and (dodgy second season aside) found out that actually someone could do better.

Then when the moyes regime went sour, you heard the same 'who could do better, given the board' and then we hired Martinez and we did better in his first season here. We're having another dodgy second season but last season proved that the moyes years were not the very pinnacle of what was possible.

I don't have any time at all for Smith, tbh. Bad managers blame the circumstances, good managers win games.

Moyes built an excellent squad tho, lets not pretend otherwise, Martinez took it on, injected some quality upfront and gave them a real freedom to play, whether Martinez can continue to pull rabbits out the hat like Moyes is unclear. I mean he hasnt yet produced a rabbit, when I say a rabbit, I mean a Coleman for 60k, Arteta for 2.5m, Cahill for 1.5m, Stones for 3m, the only Rabbit Fraudo has so far is Besic, the finest midfielder of his generation, sitting on a bench.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Yeah, O'Neill is your best example, I think.

Unless Richard Advocaat turns thing around at the Mackems in the near future.....

 

[davek]

I can't wait to read what @davek makes of this.

Him being the chief Robertonian round these parts and Naisy being his least liked payer and all.



Dave, Dave......oi, Dave......whatcha make of that, pal

If it was two players being asked about a list of their favourite managers then this "news" might be significant. The fact is though that they were asked for one name. McGeady went for a manager he played under for 4 years and who paid £11M for him. Martinez isn't going to go the top of his list is he? I mean he won tons with Strachan up there in Scotland for ages and never picked him either. Same with Naismith: he played for years under Smith and won stuff up there in Scotland. One choice to make? Is he likely to say martinez? No. Not at all.

Ask the Wigan players who their favourite manager is and guess what name they'll come up with? Yes, that's right.

Anyway, I dont want to be confrontational about this. I think we should all come together now and unify around the manager of Everton FC. No more factions.

 

[Goat]

2 Feb 2015 Matthew Kennedy Cardiff City Undisclosed HIT

2 Feb 2015 Aaron Lennon Tottenham Hotspur Loan HITT

27 Jan 2015 Samuel Eto'o Sampdoria Undisclosed MISS

1 Jan 2015 Hallam Hope Bury Undisclosed

1 Sep 2014 David Henen Olympiakos Loan

1 Sep 2014 Shane Duffy Blackburn Rovers £1.5m HITT

29 Aug 2014 Conor Hunt [Free Agent] No Fee

26 Aug 2014 Samuel Eto'o [Free Agent] No Fee HITT

13 Aug 2014 Christian Atsu Chelsea Loan

30 Jul 2014 Romelu Lukaku Chelsea £25mHITT

18 Jul 2014 Sam Byrne [Free Agent] No Fee

8 Jul 2014 Gareth Barry [Free Agent] £1m MISS

13 Jun 2014 Mageye Gueye [Free Agent] No Fee HIT

31 Jan 2014 Jindrich Stanek Sparta Prague £1m

14 Jan 2014 Nikica Jelavic Hull City £6.5m MISS

11 Jan 2014 Aiden McGeady Spartak Moscow £1.5m MISS

2 Sep 2013 Gareth Barry Manchester City Loan HIT

2 Sep 2013 Romelu Lukaku Chelsea Loan HIT

2 Sep 2013 Victor Anichebe West Bromwich Albion £5m MISS

2 Sep 2013 Marouane Fellaini Manchester United £27.5m MISS

2 Sep 2013 James McCarthy Wigan Athletic £13m HIT
10 July 2013 Gerard Deulofeu Barcelona Loan HIT
9 Jul 2013 Joel Robles Atletico Madrid £4.5m HIT
9 Jul 2013 Antolin Alcaraz [Free Agent] No Fee MISS
8 Jul 2013 Arouna Kone Wigan Athletic £5m MISS

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[Goat]

Ask the Wigan players who their favourite manager is and guess what name they'll come up with? Yes, that's right.

Steve Bruce?

 

[davek]

Steve Bruce?

Only if they like to remember losers with fondness.

 

[Goat]

Only if they like to remember losers with fondness.

He managed to get Jela firing, something El Fraudo couldnt manage.

I mean who would you rather have, Jela or Kone or even Victor or Kone or even Jozy Altidore or Kone.

 

[davek]

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