Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

Martinez

  • In

    Votes: 504 46.4%
  • Out

    Votes: 583 53.6%

  • Total voters
    1,087
  • Poll closed .
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People burying their head in the sand again, it's what our fans love to do.

WE ARE in danger of going down, we're 6 points off the relegation zone with about 3 wins in 3 months, that's relegation form. If the other teams around us in danger like Burnley, Villa and perhaps even Sunderland, kick into gear and find some form in the last part of the season, and recent history suggest several teams in their predicament do, then we could be f*cked unless we do the same.

Which players are likely to leave and why do I think they will? Do you have that short a memory? What did Rooney do? What did Lescott do? What Pienaar do originally? The jibbed us off and went to teams that matched their ambitions. Went to clubs they believed could achieve what they believed we couldn't. Are people naive enough to think Barkley, Lukaku, Garbutt, Stones and a few other promising youngsters are going to stick around long at a club that doesn't look to be going anywhere? No player with any ambition would. If they don't go in the summer there's a very real chance they'd go in January or maybe the summer after next at the latest if things don't improve dramatically in that time.

We have an owner who for his all his tears, cringey clapping and good-heartedness, has no money to give to the manager for transfers that he can raise himself. Everything we spend is from players sales and has been for his entire tenure. Kenwright backed Martinez in the summer with £28m to buy Lukaku? BS. Absolute BS. That money came from the sales of the likes of Fellaini (£27m-odd), Jelavic (about £7.5m), Anichebe (about £6m overall) and a few others. And even then, there should have been some of that left over but we've never seen it. Kenwright, the invisible man Jon Woods and the Tory restaurant owner Robert Earl have never, and will never, put anything into the club from their own pockets because they know they likely won't get it back again. And because there doesn't seem to be billionaire somewhere who thinks we're worth buying it's looks likely to stay that way.



Martinez? For me, he's completely shown himself up this season with awful tactics, delusional thinking and downright arrogant explanations and I want him gone now. I respect the fact that there still seems to be a large section of fans who don't but I won't be told by anyone that I have no right to be extremely PO'ed with him after the mess he's been largely responsible for this season. A team that after last season had realistic ambitions of getting top 4 or winning a trophy, now finding ourselves right down the other end of the table, lost almost twice as many games as we've won, getting humiliated by bang average sides and crashing out of Europe with a whimper.

Spray-painting Goodison Park is a reprehensible thing to do and I hope the ones who've done it are tracked down and taught a lesson. Forgive me though for being more pissed about what I feel are more important issues.

And I'm out.

Yes this is true but Financial Fair Play means if we did get a wealthy owner, we would still be restricted for bringing in the quality we need.

We have a comparative advantage over most PL teams in that our youth system has generated players of the future - but that's it. Martinez going is one thing, the real issue is where is the club going over the next 10 years - we would have to grow organically but a new stadium with those extra revenues is a start. We are gonna gradually fall away without either a new stadium or an inspired rethink on the goodison footprint.
 
He will believe he can win the fans over, he has this issue with the Swansea fans, who pulled him up over it and he didn't back down and won them over, the same with sign where he won the f.a cup. The only issue is our fans are a different breed to those clubs. He will have to get back to winning games if he won't change

Win games, problems go away. It was ever thus.

I cant take it seriously though. This time last season who could ever think or dream something like this was possible even in this position...that Bobby Brown Shoes (adored by the masses) could be the target for a 'get him out' campaign?

It's completely ridiculous and embarrassing. The kneejerk of all kneejerks. The fact that whoever did this splattered their sh1te all over an honour awarded to the greatest Evertonian to have ever lived just underlines the sense of shame of it all.
 
We've had worse seasons (plural) under Moyes with half the fuss. We finished 17th once.

There's still 9 games to get a respectable league finish. A lot of the good league positions under Moyes were due to finishing the season well so lets see where we finish before going into meltdown.

we've got less points now than we did that season, the coventry season & the wimbledon season. im pretty sure its the worst total since we got relegated in the 50's
 
Win games, problems go away. It was ever thus.

I cant take it seriously though. This time last season who could ever think or dream something like this was possible even in this position...that Bobby Brown Shoes (adored by the masses) could be the target for a 'get him out' campaign?

It's completely ridiculous and embarrassing. The kneejerk of all kneejerks. The fact that whoever did this splattered their sh1te all over an honour awarded to the greatest Evertonian to have ever lived just underlines the sense of shame of it all.

Totally agree mate, no matter where you stand on it, and it achieves little aside from (as my timeline & inbox have thus far proven) give ammo to the red contingent who seem to be taking the moral high ground based on the following: A) They'd NEVER do anything like that B) Someone, somewhere, probably in jest has said it was a 'KOPITE' that did it, the reaction to which - from some reds I know - has been, well, 'phenomenal' to say the least AND C) See point A) again.

I hate footy sometimes.

Anyway, onward today eh...
 
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Totally agree mate, no matter where you stand on it, and it achieves little aside from (as my timeline & inbox have thus far proven) give ammo to the red contingent who seem to be taking the moral high ground based on the following: A) They'd NEVER do anything like that B) Someone, somewhere, probably in jest has said it was a 'KOPITE' that did it, the reaction to which - from some reds I know - has been, well, 'phenomenal' to say the least AND C) See point A) again.

I hate footy sometimes.

Anyway, onward today eh...
Shouldn't you really change your username to 'TheSelf-OpinionatedEgg'?
 
Hey guys, GhostofAlbertEinstein here.

I've decided to stop studying physics and instead will study football fans.

And after many years of painstaking research i can reveal that football fans like the manager more when the team wins and less when they team loses.

And that blatantly obvious conclusion is reflected in poll results.

Now if only i could figure out why some people feel the need to point out that blindingly obvious fact over and over again as if they are announcing the menaing of life i really would be a genius.
 
Hey guys, GhostofAlbertEinstein here.

I've decided to stop studying physics and instead will study football fans.

And after many years of painstaking research i can reveal that football fans like the manager more when the team wins and less when they team loses.

And that blatantly obvious conclusion is reflected in poll results.

Now if only i could figure out why some people feel the need to point out that blindingly obvious fact over and over again as if they are announcing the menaing of life i really would be a genius.

You were one of Moyes' biggest critics - were you not?
 
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