Talking of which, where's the bleeding qpr preview.
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Talking of which, where's the bleeding qpr preview.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
but they sold the same amount as well. You think they would've brought in that 90m odd worth of players if they kept Bale? Obviously spending more does increase your chances but you have to be smart about it as well. We don't have the cash to waste 20m on players that end up being crap like Lallana
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
yeah good talk mate. glad you get what I'm saying
Elong
The fire rises
Clarkson was right about them being lazy.
I just hope Chelsea don't bin off Roman and poach Bill, instead, mate. Once they work out that spending money means nothing.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
you've completely missed the point mate. But yes instead of having a reasonable discussion just spout off more hyperbole
Your point was that spending totals "don't really matter".
Once you've established that, it's not hyperbole to talk about the consequences of that world view.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
I obviously meant that you can't just base EVERYTHING off that. There's always going to be teams whose league position doesn't correlate with their spending total.
People burying their head in the sand again, it's what our fans love to do.
WE ARE in danger of going down, we're 6 points off the relegation zone with about 3 wins in 3 months, that's relegation form. If the other teams around us in danger like Burnley, Villa and perhaps even Sunderland, kick into gear and find some form in the last part of the season, and recent history suggest several teams in their predicament do, then we could be f*cked unless we do the same.
Which players are likely to leave and why do I think they will? Do you have that short a memory? What did Rooney do? What did Lescott do? What Pienaar do originally? The jibbed us off and went to teams that matched their ambitions. Went to clubs they believed could achieve what they believed we couldn't. Are people naive enough to think Barkley, Lukaku, Garbutt, Stones and a few other promising youngsters are going to stick around long at a club that doesn't look to be going anywhere? No player with any ambition would. If they don't go in the summer there's a very real chance they'd go in January or maybe the summer after next at the latest if things don't improve dramatically in that time.
We have an owner who for his all his tears, cringey clapping and good-heartedness, has no money to give to the manager for transfers that he can raise himself. Everything we spend is from players sales and has been for his entire tenure. Kenwright backed Martinez in the summer with £28m to buy Lukaku? BS. Absolute BS. That money came from the sales of the likes of Fellaini (£27m-odd), Jelavic (about £7.5m), Anichebe (about £6m overall) and a few others. And even then, there should have been some of that left over but we've never seen it. Kenwright, the invisible man Jon Woods and the Tory restaurant owner Robert Earl have never, and will never, put anything into the club from their own pockets because they know they likely won't get it back again. And because there doesn't seem to be billionaire somewhere who thinks we're worth buying it's looks likely to stay that way.
Martinez? For me, he's completely shown himself up this season with awful tactics, delusional thinking and downright arrogant explanations and I want him gone now. I respect the fact that there still seems to be a large section of fans who don't but I won't be told by anyone that I have no right to be extremely PO'ed with him after the mess he's been largely responsible for this season. A team that after last season had realistic ambitions of getting top 4 or winning a trophy, now finding ourselves right down the other end of the table, lost almost twice as many games as we've won, getting humiliated by bang average sides and crashing out of Europe with a whimper.
Spray-painting Goodison Park is a reprehensible thing to do and I hope the ones who've done it are tracked down and taught a lesson. Forgive me though for being more pissed about what I feel are more important issues.
And I'm out.
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In the same way there are teams whos league position doesn't correlate with their number of clean sheets.
You still buy a goalkeeper, if you can.
And you still get in a chairman who can spend money, if you can.
You can still do things with Howard and kenwright instead but oh man is it harder.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
Where did I say anything about us not buying anyone though? I said nothing of the sort. Just that how much you spend isn't the only factor in success, I never said we shouldn't spend what we have.
I've completely forgotten what this argument even started about, tbh. But you were defo in the wrong.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
sure thing
mrb85
Player Valuation: £35m
It's hardly the first time at GP though is it.
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