Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

[USABlue]

Apart from the 2 Belgians, can you remind me which top footballing nation these internationals play for again?

the mighty england and ireland

 

[Goat]

Do I have to get George Weah out?

 

[kithnou]

Do they need to play for Brazil and Argentina to register has an international??

nope, but if you are quoting me Scottish, Irish and English for example then don't expect to make too many top half table finishes

 

[The Equaliser]

There are going to be generous helpings of humble pie eaten when this feller eventually gets the boot.

And then it will be " Yeah but I always knew it wouldn't work out....etc, etc."

As it used to say in the AA advert "But he's a really nice man, you know."

This is Everton ffs. And we can't even defend.

 

[kithnou]

the mighty england and ireland

see above

 

[nsno-chris]

Most have aged, been crueled by injury and are finished. The squad is nowhere near as good as you think it is.

How much can you age in 6 months haha

What about the dross football, the inability to score and the remarkable comparison to Wigans form

 

[USABlue]

Got to agree with chris on this one. Pretty much this exact same team got us our most points and played the best football since the last 80s last year. It couldn't do that and not be considerd one of the best teams in that time period.

It either massively over achieved last year or massively under achieved this cos it's the same team.

I would say the latter. Given that Martinez has called Lukaku, barkley, Stones etc among the best players in europe you'd imagine he would too.

tbf though mate Barry was ace last year and is crap this season, Distin dropped off severely. Coleman's no where near last seasons form as well. Now the reasons behind these things is up for debate but alot of our players have aged/declined since last year like barry, distin, pienaar, etc

 

[nsno-chris]

nope, but if you are quoting me Scottish, Irish and English for example then don't expect to make too many top half table finishes

Oh ok.

So James McCarthy, Ross Barkley, Leighton Baines and John Stones are on par with those who play for Stoke, Newcastle etc etc

Thanks for clearing that up

 

[Allezfan]

tbf though mate Barry was ace last year and is crap this season, Distin dropped off severely. Coleman's no where near last seasons form as well. Now the reasons behind these things is up for debate but alot of our players have aged/declined since last year like barry, distin, pienaar, etc

Yes, the fact they played well last and poor this is why they either over achieved or under achieved.

 

[The Equaliser]

Apart from the 2 Belgians, can you remind me which top footballing nation these internationals play for again?

He didn't say they played for a top footballing nation. Not that Belgium even are one.

 

[kithnou]

There are going to be generous helpings of humble pie eaten when this feller eventually gets the boot.

And then it will be " Yeah but I always knew it wouldn't work out....etc, etc."

As it used to say in the AA advert "But he's a really nice man, you know."

This is Everton ffs. And we can't even defend.

Mate. I didn't want him to begin with. I think that most of his transfer dealings have been poor and panic driven. I think he talks rubbish most times after a game.
But, I want to give him a chance and not die wondering. I don't see any world class, international,experienced Managers coming here so lets give him a chance to grow. I don't want recycled dross British Managers.

 

[Goat]

nope, but if you are quoting me Scottish, Irish and English for example then don't expect to make too many top half table finishes

Maybe you missed Manchester United winning abar 15 titles with a team whos bulk of players came from Scotland, Ireland and England.

 

[USABlue]

Yes, the fact they played well last and poor this is why they either over achieved or under achieved.

I get what you're saying mate, just saying that I think part of the reason is due to age in some players cases rather than form

 

[kithnou]

How much can you age in 6 months haha

What about the dross football, the inability to score and the remarkable comparison to Wigans form

once a footballer hits the early to mid 30s believe me, since months is a long time and an injury exacerbates that

 

[The Equaliser]

the mighty england and ireland

And the 'mighty' USA.