2019/20 Marco Silva

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Hardest turn around jobs around LOL

A team that finished 8th under Alladyce that spends gonzalo's every season on players.

I would hate to think how hard it is managing clubs in the bottom half spending a 1/3 of what we do is...

Can’t believe we’re still doing this. Burnley finished 7th that season, it didn’t mean they had the 7th best squad in the league.
 
so we were not allowed to question Silva when we went on that 3 month run of absolute relegation form ..

ok.
The issue is Frank some people are judging him JUST on that middle season form.

It was concerning how we seemed to fall apart after that derby loss, and it's a shame that the run of bad form coincided with our busiest period of the season when we were playing twice a week, and the start of the FA cup. Perhaps the lack of quality depth in our squad was exposed. Hopefully we have learned from that and the squad has more quality now (apart from CB cover).

But the fact remains that Silva did turn it around and in the final third of the season only Liverpool and City had a better record. That is something that we can hopefully build on.
 
No, you said remember people saying Silva’s teams couldn’t defend because he has a Spanish name.

We said his teams couldn’t defend because they couldn’t defend. Whatsoever.
The aimless accusations came way before last season, as a result of their falsehood we should bulldoze the park end
As stated, the accusations came around way before he even signed with us, and have been proven embarrassingly wrong
So no calls of another martinez were made before silva was an everton manager then?
That is what I'm talking about, having stated it quite a few times
 

We’re the only team not to have conceded this season, Villa lost first 2 games, Everton can go top of the league.....

Yes, we know what will happen

Marco, break the cycle!!
 
Zero goals conceded at Goodison since February I think.

He has definitely sorted out my defensive concerns, I thought he was weak here.
If that's by sheer good luck or good training I'm not arsed, just happy it seems solid right now.

Chris Sutton is a poor mans Danny Murphy, he's that bad.
That zouma was quite something wasn't he.
 
He won’t be criticised for not making Top 4, stop making things up.
Don't be too shocked if they do. There are some in here, admittedly a very small minority, who are totally opposed to Silva. They tend to only come out when we lose but they are always there waiting to pounce. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are critical at the end of the season for us not finishing in the top 4.
 

No, you said remember people saying Silva’s teams couldn’t defend because he has a Spanish name.

We said his teams couldn’t defend because they couldn’t defend. Whatsoever.
I don't think we were defensively poor as a team during that period (Spurs game excepted). But we did take a very long time to get to grips with zonal marking, and we exacerbated that by continually giving lots of stupid needless free kicks away in dangerous areas. Thankfully we improved in both area's from March onwards.

I have to admit though, at the time I was seriously questioning Silva's judgment in persisting with zonal marking, and wondered whether he was just too stubborn in the same mould of Martinez.
 
I had my doubts a few times last season but you have to applaud how much we’ve improved defensively (open play and set pieces). Clean sheets are boss and our form since February can’t be ignored.

All we need is our attackers to put their chances away (Richarlison and Moise twice each yesterday) and we’ll be a nightmare to play against.

Pretty much this , the improvement from a defence that basically conceded from corners and free kicks on a weekly basis , to having one of the meanest defences in the league over the last 15 games or so, is a massive feather in his cap providing we keep it this way
 
Hardest turn around jobs around LOL

A team that finished 8th under Alladyce that spends gonzalo's every season on players.

I would hate to think how hard it is managing clubs in the bottom half spending a 1/3 of what we do is...

A squad with barely any quality anywhere in it (people were claiming Walcott was our best player when we finished 17/18). An owner reluctant to back managers after being burned twice by Koeman and Allardyce. Players with a terrible attitude on long contracts they didn’t want to leave. Incoherent director of football changes. Absolutely no quality upfront whatsoever. Fan base expecting European football but absolutely poisonous to the team.

I think it was a very hard job. If you go in at the bottom then keeping a team up is hailed as a success. The reality is that anything below 7th and Silva will be under pressure here. I think he’s done very well to turn it around from us hoping that a back 4 of Kenny Williams Jagielka and Martina could keep the door shut and we might nick one through Rooney or Siggurdson.
 
If that spell happens again he will be VERY lucky to see it through, just like he was lucky to see it through last year. You can't throw away 1/3 of your season and shrug your shoulders.

I don't put any stock in what we did last year(no goals since February), it's a completely different year with different personnel. Someone used Burnley as an examply, they conceded like 30 goals all season in 17/18 and conceded 30 in 15 matches last year. So far he has 2 clean sheets which is a big improvement to last season iirc but we STILL have a giant inability to score.

There is a massive opportunity this year to move up our league position, possibly considerably. Our opening fixtures are extremely winnable and, so far, he's doing well but we should be beating palace especially without their best player.
 
As stated, the accusations came around way before he even signed with us, and have been proven embarrassingly wrong
Proven - jury still out imo.
Don't know about this Martinez thing, but for some having an objective stance/critique of Silva is far less embarrassing than those desperate to see him as the savior without the performances on the board to suggest he is anywhere near to that.

What's wrong is lauding over Silva while getting the type of performance we got against Watford.
Watford throw players forward and the response is local park level route one, balls being hoofed all over the place, absence of midfield play with three passes strung together an absolute rarity, resigned to the backs sitting deep, often no central everton player between the backs and whoever was leading the line, all the while, while Sig continued to press their backs. Tactical response was to bring on Walcott and encourage more of it, while the way out of the mess was seemingly to lump the responsibility on the shoulders of Moise, apparently contradicting his post match comments.

If the argument is that its all about being patience and giving it time to work then what was that?
Surely, in this context of progress, he would of had them fight to wrestle back control of the midfield and turn Watfords second half tactics on its head.
It may not have worked and we may have lost the game, but it would have been progress, experienced gained, lessons learnt and all that.
Then you'd could rightfully say - be patient. Instead he just willed Watford to keep coming at us.
1st half was good was decent though.
But don't give us this embarrassingly wrong crap!
 

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