Man City Banned From Europe

[PDAWG]

City owners will drag UEFA through the courts now no doubt

No way the ban stands whilst it's going through various stages of legal battle

 

[GwladysPhil]

Stephen Warnock on 5Live defending FFP on the basis that if a non-man u, rs type club with historic revenue wants to compete it's right that they are not allowed to spend as much as these clubs but they should 'get a better manager and scouts'.

He admitted this view was from the rs side of the fence and sums up exactly the protectionism that FFP is designed to achieve, and which clubs were behind it.

He was on tv looking at the penalty incidents in the Southampton game, unreal how biased he was, the female pundit with the quiff haircut made some valid points against Liverpool and he was sneering like a teenager, pathetic.

 

[mahermi1]

Thanks. Barcelona are the other one that interests me. Apparently over a billion in debt following the Greizman purchase. I thought the purpose of FFP was to protect clubs against financial ruin. I am aware that Barca have huge revenues but surely clubs loading themselves with debt are at greater risk of financial ruin. several years of poor form post Messi could see them in all sorts of trouble.

Barca are part of the cartel though, the elite clubs that FFP was created for. Supposedly brought in to stop clubs getting into massive debt, ask Man United and Barcelona, they're not alone either.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

10 point deduction and City could finish outside the top 4 so their CL ban would not come into play.

I thought it through fine, but thanks for your concern.

The most they'd likely get is a 12pt deduction, which would put them in.... 4th

So unless you think they're likely to get less points between now and the end of the season than Sheff Utd....

 

[ToffeeDan]

Should anyone really be surprised when wealthy persons, from nations with an appalling human rights record, should stop at nothing in their greedy pursuit of monetised reflected glory and acceptance..

Nothing against City as a football club - with a long history and a great community spirit - or indeed their one-time long suffering fans - but how anyone can find the attitude of the ownership to the rules and their utterly reprehensible attitude to being found out in anyway acceptable or deserving of leniency is beyond me. I hope the CAS recommend that the sentence is increased.

 

[ToffeeTim]

That piece by Martin Samuel is absolutely spot on.

Just read it.

Absolutely nails it. How anyone can argue FFP helps promote a level playing field is beyond me.

Debt should be the key issue.

 

[DixieScoresAgain]

That's basically it. Unfortunately we have anti competitiveness rules, and also rules that protect against monopolies. You are not legally allowed to do what he is describing. Its morally akin to fixing the Libor rates or whatever. Its fixing the market.

UEFA have potentially made an enormous mistake with this. Putting it out in the open could mean the ramifications go beyond just City. Dont discount the possibility of further legal action. I hope City litigate them.out of existence and bring the whole corrupt pyramid down.

The thing is Tabas the La Liga boss. Ruminegge and a few of the other giants figures in the game from the G14 have threatened a breakaway if UEFA do not do something about City and PSG, new format of CL is coming in 2-3 seasons time and UEFA is making the CL more lucrative to please these clubs and stop the breakaway.

This happening to City because the powerful cartel of clubs have forced UEFA's hands against City, this FFP charge will stand before the early rounds of the CL start, City haven't got a chance in hell of overturning this as CAS will release the damaging documents to the public view and the statement City posted last night never actually denied the charges which was staggering.

 

[bluenorthwarrior]

Should anyone really be surprised when wealthy persons, from nations with an appalling human rights record, should stop at nothing in their greedy pursuit of monetised reflected glory and acceptance..

Nothing against City as a football club - with a long history and a great community spirit - or indeed their one-time long suffering fans - but how anyone can find the attitude of the ownership to the rules and their utterly reprehensible attitude to being found out in anyway acceptable or deserving of leniency is beyond me. I hope the CAS recommend that the sentence is increased.

Should anyone really be surprised when wealthy persons, from nations with an appalling human rights record, should stop at nothing in their greedy pursuit of monetised reflected glory and acceptance..

Nothing against City as a football club - with a long history and a great community spirit - or indeed their one-time long suffering fans - but how anyone can find the attitude of the ownership to the rules and their utterly reprehensible attitude to being found out in anyway acceptable or deserving of leniency is beyond me. I hope the CAS recommend that the sentence is increased.

So is the issue the source of the money or do you believe FFP is not a sham designed to protect the position of the 'elite'?

 

[PDAWG]

City have been a stain on this league for years, The year Pep signed and they finished 4th on the final day of the season, What did they do in the summer? Spent 270m on defenders and pretty much bought the league title

Most of us have put up with them because it's halted those lot winning the league, but honestly what chance do we ever have of getting close to getting trophies if there's a side spending 500m on players in the last three seasons

 

[ToffeeTim]

Businesses go out of business usually because of debt.

Not because others in their industry have higher turnover. Otherwise every small business in the world would fail. And obviously that's just rubbish and not true.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

if you are upset with this ban you are no true Evertonian, as simple as this, who cares about how/if RS will benefit or not

 

[ToffeeTim]

Stephen Warnock on 5Live defending FFP on the basis that if a non-man u, rs type club with historic revenue wants to compete it's right that they are not allowed to spend as much as these clubs but they should 'get a better manager and scouts'.

He admitted this view was from the rs side of the fence and sums up exactly the protectionism that FFP is designed to achieve, and which clubs were behind it.

What a shock

 

[ToffeeTim]

if you are upset with this ban you are no true Evertonian, as simple as this, who cares about how/if RS will benefit or not

We should all want FFP scrapped so we can plough as much money into recruitment as we like.

 

[bluenorthwarrior]

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City have been a stain on this league for years, The year Pep signed and they finished 4th on the final day of the season, What did they do in the summer? Spent 270m on defenders and pretty much bought the league title

Most of us have put up with them because it's halted those lot winning the league, but honestly what chance do we ever have of getting close to getting trophies if there's a side spending 500m on players in the last three seasons

This so why FFP can't work. What chance do we have if we can spend 100m per year on new players whilst other clubs can spend 250m per year (legally) under FFP.

The only fair system would be spend caps and salary caps that are exactly the same for all clubs, not linked to size of club and revenue.

 

[matty1878]

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This so why FFP can't work. What chance do we have if we can spend 100m per year on new players whilst other clubs can spend 250m per year (legally) under FFP.

The only fair system would be spend caps and salary caps that are exactly the same for all clubs, not linked to size of club and revenue.

Which won’t happen