Current Affairs London Protests

[ramacca]

Right, since you never really reply to substantive posts from others, you don't really deserve this, but:


Perhaps you should consider exactly how much people care about this issue, and how much a tipping point has been reached, that they are willing to go into crowded public spaces to seize this moment and protest against this issue, even in spite of the risk to their lives. It's worth noting that face masks have been prevalent at most of the gatherings, which latest data suggests will reduce transmission by ~80%.

I (and many others) find it totally STUPID and IGNORANT and UNSAFE that a police officer could kneel on a person's neck for 9 minutes (including 2.5mins AFTER he was checked and found not to have a pulse, according to some reports) and for that NOT to provoke widespread outrage and protest.

To compare protests against the unlawful killing of people of colour by those charged to protect them to whether people should be allowed into stadia to watch a football match, is inane, to be honest. You can consider that a "personal attack" if you want. Most would consider it fact.


There are a number of aims of the movement. Defunding of the police in the US is a major tentpole. Defunding doesn't mean "cut all funding and scrap the police". It means a reduction in funding, which would in turn reduce the militarisation of the police. In the US the police spend huge sums of money every year on buying decommissioned military hardware. If you equip police like they're soldiers on a battlefield, it's hardly a surprise when they act like it.

They also want 8 specific changes to police procedure and their use of force. You can find what these are fairly easily with a little research.

These things don't exactly make for memorable slogans to chant during a protest. "Black Lives Matter" came about because in many countries, but especially the US, they're not treated like they do by the authorities.


Because (again, specifically in the US, as that's where the movement started, but it's mirrored here to an extent) black people have worse health and socio-economic outcomes than those of a similar background of other ethnicities.

"I don't have white privilege, I grew up poor too" isn't an argument when pretty much every bit of available data says that whatever your circumstance, changing your skin colour to black would make that circumstance worse.


Most of the organisations who are paying bail are paying bail for those arrested while protesting, not looting. But to turn attention to the looting for a moment, perhaps you'd like to turn your attention to this video that I've posted in reply to you elsewhere at least once, possibly twice, but never got a response.



Society doesn't uphold its end of the social contract for a huge segment of the population, based on little more than their skin colour. It's a bit rich to expect them to then uphold theirs.


This is a function of the media coming out of those areas and how much information people receive. Is it right that there isn't more protest? No, but that doesn't lessen any other cause.

Oh, but as for point D: Voter suppression amongst communities of colour in the US is at a horrendous level.


Viruses don't "murder" people. Murder is a conscious act. Like kneeling on someone's neck while they die beneath you. Or shooting unarmed women sleeping on a couch. Or shooting a guy out jogging.


Because, shock horror, in any large group of people you'll get people who don't react in the ideal way. The vast majority of protests in this country have been peaceful (and for that matter socially distanced)

Well said.

 

[cronullasharks]

Why on earth is page 1 of this thread basically full of alt right propaganda? Not cool.

I saw Avi Yemini and that was enough, no idea who the others are.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Very selfish of all the protesters to break lockdown rules and risk lives here to protest something that happened in the USA. Virtue signalling at it’s worst.

 

[ChesterBlue]

I saw Avi Yemini and that was enough, no idea who the others are.

I don’t feel posting tweets captioned “PC cuck gets on his knees, not fit for the force” belongs on here, as that language is very synonymous with incel and extreme right rhetoric.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Very selfish of all the protesters to break lockdown rules and risk lives here to protest something that happened in the USA. Virtue signalling at it’s worst.

Aye. Disgraceful isn’t it?

Not only is there absolutely no racism in the U.K., it’s also impossible to care about those from outside our borders.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Aye. Disgraceful isn’t it?

Not only is there absolutely no racism in the U.K., it’s also impossible to care about those from outside our borders.

That’s not my point, under normal circumstances I’d be supportive even if I wasn’t out there myself. In the current climate it’s utterly baffling. People rightly give Cummings a hard time, well this lot are just as bad.

 

[the sniderman]

They always end up playing the victim in the end.

it reminds me of another adversary of this message board my buddy.
nazis ** handshake emoji ** kopites

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

That’s not my point, under normal circumstances I’d be supportive even if I wasn’t out there myself. In the current climate it’s utterly baffling. People rightly give Cummings a hard time, well this lot are just as bad.

Yeah. Protesting (often while wearing face coverings and socially distancing) against systemic racism and the murder of black people by police, by people desperate to see change in the world is just as bad as a top govt aide/co-PM going on a jolly to a beauty spot a few hundred miles away then lying to the nation about it.

 

[ChesterBlue]

it reminds me of another adversary of this message board my buddy.
nazis ** handshake emoji ** kopites

I love the smell of 4chan in the morning....

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Lockdown is clearly starting to bite. Why in the name of god am I engaging with people who use phrases like "thought police" and "virtue signalling"?

 

[Papa Shango]

Lockdown is clearly starting to bite. Why in the name of god am I engaging with people who use phrases like "thought police" and "virtue signalling"?

The prevalence of terms like virtue signalling, snowflake and the fact that being a "lefty" is now deemed as being a bad thing are some of the worst things to have happened over the past few years. A proper sign of our society in 2020.

How dare you care about people you knob? That's basically where we are right now.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Yeah. Protesting (often while wearing face coverings and socially distancing) against systemic racism and the murder of black people by police, by people desperate to see change in the world is just as bad as a top govt aide/co-PM going on a jolly to a beauty spot a few hundred miles away then lying to the nation about it.

Rubbish. The vast majority have not been wearing masks and certainly not social distancing, kudos to the ones who have though.

Cummings broke the rules, so are lots of the protesters. Say what you like about their motives -they’re as bad as each other.

 

[cronullasharks]

I don’t feel posting tweets captioned “PC cuck gets on his knees, not fit for the force” belongs on here, as that language is very synonymous with incel and extreme right rhetoric.

I only found out what the word incel meant a few weeks ago lol.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Respect for the majority who protest peacefully, got no time for the minority who go just to kick - off but then whinge when the Police dish it out back.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

The prevalence of terms like virtue signalling, snowflake and the fact that being a "lefty" is now deemed as being a bad thing are some of the worst things to have happened over the past few years. A proper sign of our society in 2020.

How dare you care about people you knob? That's basically where we are right now.

You can be a lefty and still point out when people who are behind a good cause are being idiots in terms of their actions.