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PhilM said:
That's all true and in reality I'm far from advocating removing it, however I do have issues with the blotting out of aspects of history and the legacy they leave.

Where does it stop? James Penny, a slave-ship owner, had a street named after him in Liverpool, which some band then used as a name for a track of theirs.

History is often signified by how relevant it is in the human consciousness or today's zeitgiest; this is why places like Auschwitz are maintained or other memorials.

Most are good but some are bad, but they're a part of the fabric of history. For me, the statue isn't a celebration of slavery but an artefact or source linked to it.

@Tubey mentioned it earlier that people now look back on history and believe that our morals inherently match those of the time, when in reality they do not.
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TBF that assumes that people actually look back on history; most of the time they base their opinions on snippets here and there which they agree with.

Just look at how many people think Henry V was the greatest English monarch, for example.
 
Papa Shango said:
Well it's both to be fair. Not everyone is rioting are they?

The racial hate was there already. None of this will turn someone racist all of a sudden (although...)
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That’s just it mate none of this will change someone to anti-racist either which is the whole point!
 
JLW said:
That’s just it mate none of this will change someone to anti-racist either which is the whole point!
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So lets just crack on with stuff basically? Pretend everything is fine.

You are not wrong to be fair, nothing means anything these days. Everything is pointless.
 
catcherintherye said:
Ah ok, I am sure I read something about the plague and what it said, but could be wrong.
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Yeah, there was movement to alter the wording to include his slavery stuff iirc. Havnt a clue if it was mind. That statue in town is looked at like Londoners look at Nelsons column. Its just there. Has been for longer than anyone who lives there.

Same as numerous roads and streets that are named after him, plus a school, plus a concert hall.
 
tsubaki said:
TBF that assumes that people actually look back on history; most of the time they base their opinions on snippets here and there which they agree with.

Just look at how many people think Henry V was the greatest English monarch, for example.
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Obviously there's lots of people who don't, but not everyone. If a statue of Henry V makes people research medieval Britain, well that's not a bad thing.
 
roydo said:
Tearing it down you mean? Of course it wasnt democratic, unless I didnt get my voting card.
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Thanks mate, it seems the people who tore it down don't really care about democracy which is a shame because isn't the alternative fascism? Or is it totalitarianism? I'm not very smart so I not sure but I believe that everyone's voice should be equal and heard.
 
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