Current Affairs London Protests

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He was literally charged with out raging public decency,

Didn't need to be though did he ? A simple fixed penalty fine would have done the trick. From the picture I saw he took a slash at the side of the memorial, rather than pissing over it, so the chances are, he was blithely ignorant of where he was, which ( being blindly ignorant ) sums him, and his scummy mates up quite nicely.

Storm in a teacup, and he was charged with outraging public decency, rather than a standard civil charge, to play to Mail readers and the like.

Is he a knobhead ? Yes, undoubtebly.

Should he have been punished in some way ? Definitely, but mainly because he was stupid enough to get caught.

Was it worth criminalising him ? For me, nah ( though who knows, he may already have had a record ). Plainly you disagree like, which is fine, but there was far worse footage seen over the last couple of weeks. The lad trying to burn the flag on the cenotaph last week and the the thug hurling racist abuse at some black lads while flipping them a nazi salute with a "Sieg Heil" thrown in this weekend come immediately to mind.

Good to see there are some fascist defenders in here

Haha, behave yourself squire, never read so much bollocks, in so few words, in my life !


Well, actually, I have, but I'll run with you being number one for now.
 
Plus the shame, as he’s been named and shamed all over the National news today.

If he’s in employment, I can’t see his employer being too happy either.

This will follow him around for a long time.

Criminal record, served time, means he now has to declare it to any employers for the next two years ( I think ? ) and it'll turn up in any DBS check he might have to have done.

To me, that's disproportionate for what he did.
Same goes for the idea being floated of sentencing people for up to ten years for desecrating war memorials.

Both are knee jerk, and, rather than make any attempt to deal with the underlying issues, they're just pandering to the masses.
 
He was literally charged with out raging public decency, so yes it is populist.

This bloke had gotten purposefully absolutely smashed, outside Parliament with no toilets available, whilst participating in a violent, far right protest (attack on police), and pissing on a memorial.

Lads taking a piss pre and post match aren't likely to find themselves outraging public decency in the same way.

Good to see there are some fascist defenders in here.

How do you leap to the conclusion that @Catfish Blues is defending fascists...
 
You seem to have omitted the explanatory follow up tweet....



...funny that.


The responses to her from both black and white people seem to be “you’re an idiot”. To both tweets.

This woman is a cretin who lied while in public office and attempted to keep her position even after being found guilty.

Attention seeking and using BLM to try and get it, shocking.
 
Should he have been punished in some way ? Definitely, but mainly because he was stupid enough to get caught.

He wasn't stupid enough to get caught though, was he? He handed himself in. And as we only had photo's of him from behind, he probably could have got away with it, if he wanted to. I haven't seen any photo's of him from other angles that would have identified him. Turning himself in was the decent thing to do.

Should he be jailed for this? Perhaps.....in a strict society where all misdemeanours are dealt with on an equal, fair footing. But in a society where, for example, repeat burglars, thieves, aggressive offenders etc continually avoid jail, this is a complete waste of public money.

He won't serve two weeks in prison. He'll do less than half, and be out before the weekend. His name and offence will be searchable for ever.
 
The responses to her from both black and white people seem to be “you’re an idiot”. To both tweets.

This woman is a cretin who lied while in public office and attempted to keep her position even after being found guilty.

Attention seeking and using BLM to try and get it, shocking.

Racist.
 
Yes Dave, that completely explains everything. The use of a cartoon monkey instead of 3 cartoon elves is exactly the everyday racism that needs to be explored.

The man had been dead for 18 years by time the character was used for Christ sake.
He was a racist and you make excuses for it and attack a black woman for bringing the connection to our attention.
 
Criminal record, served time, means he now has to declare it to any employers for the next two years ( I think ? ) and it'll turn up in any DBS check he might have to have done.

To me, that's disproportionate for what he did.
Same goes for the idea being floated of sentencing people for up to ten years for desecrating war memorials.

Both are knee jerk, and, rather than make any attempt to deal with the underlying issues, they're just pandering to the masses.
Perhaps...

Or perhaps they’re signalling to his counterparts that if you turn up under the guise of a quasi-legitimate protest with the real intention of having a scrap...

... well here’s the statue book and we’re going to throw it at you. For me, he did merit the charge of outraging public decency but in reality it’s a message.
 
He was a racist and you make excuses for it and attack a black woman for bringing the connection to our attention.
Kellogg was a racist. He’d also been dead for 18 years before a company he’d setup started using a cartoon monkey on a box. It’s a bit like blaming Marx for Pol Pots indulgences.

Just because she’s black it doesn’t mean she has a valid point, as plenty of others have pointed out.
 
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