Current Affairs London Protests
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Kenshin
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So again having an opposite opinion on something is deemed utter nonsense now?
Is even this site getting to the point where there is no point in trying to have a discussion about a subject without either the right or wrong scenario. Can noone disagree with the general view?
In fact, answer me one question. One question and once you answer it , I'll reply and I'll stay out of the current affairs forums if this is the way it actually is going.
My question is.
If people in a country feel so strongly about a subject that it becomes a movement , a protest even against a particular subject. If large number of people all agree on what is good or badlike we are seeing currently and feel strongly about it to march.
Are they right?
A much more difficult debate it seems, and one I'm glad doesn't impact me personally as I don't use female only spaces.
Probably needs its own thread.
tsubaki
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Yes, it is utter nonsense to say that Pride is a celebration not a protest. Just because you hold an opposite opinion to reality doesn't make your opinion supportable.
As for your question, not sure what the point of it is but yes, protest should be allowed?
Blueclouds
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Is anyone worried about the silent majority who are afraid to speak these days?
I'm not sure why anyone would be against Antifa and particularly BLM though. I mean BLM have actually come out and said they don't support these protests. Read their national statement. They don't support the protests, they have condemned the violence and at no point had called for the tarnishing of war memorials. The problem is we have a media, egged on by lots of right wing outliers who get given prominent platforms who are allowed to share misinformation that makes it look as if BLM are doing this stuff. It's patently untrue. They are a community based organisation, that believe in none violent protest and trying to help and support the black community.
I think for a lot of people who have it clear they are against them, there is probably some ignorance about what they stand for, which is forgiveable. I don't think thats racist, it's just people have not taken the time to read their statements and unfortunately take what a hostile media say at face value. I have to say though, the prominent political figures, who are leading movements against them (Your Tommy Robinsons, Katie Hopkins, DFLA etc) who do read such statements, it's hard to come to any conclusion other than that they are racist if they believe a peaceful organisation who want to help their own community are wrong and need to be opposed.
As for Antifa, in essence we are all antifa as it is short for anti-fascist. There's a section I don't really agree with myself. I don't like the fetishising of violence and have never felt it is a particularly useful tactic against fascism.
In both instances though, I do think it's worthwhile acknowledging what the organisations stand for, at the top of their organisations, and what people do on the ground are different things. Thats my two pennies worth anyway.
Piers Morgan ranting and raving again?
JLW
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EXACTLY!!!! The one who wasn’t getting beaten up!
I rest my case.
It's always been that way mate. Some people are worried to speak out just in case their opinion doesn't fit in with the majority voices and they're labelled X,Y and Z.
Kenshin
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So yes , if people move in lary numbers to support or fight a cause , you agree they are right.
The relevance is , in 1919 this country marched against black people. Rioted , attacked , vandalised etc. All in great number. By your very own definition, they were right to do it. You say protest should be allowed, your great grandparents fought against what you believe to be true now. As they felt so strongly about it in their numbers , their protest , their opinion is therefore right.
And more to the point, you say just because I have an opinion it doesn't make my argument supportive. What if there were hundreds of me disagreeing, would my opinion then carry weight? Is that how this works now? Opinions that don't fit the party line are not supportable? So an admission to having to agree is that?
The fact is, having an opinion isn't allowed anymore. You have been proof of that. Just because I don't regurgitate what everyone else is saying you are so quick to dismiss what I say. In fact , I have seen people on this site attacked by other posters for offering a different opinion and it's like that everywhere now.
I can see where all of this ends up. By everyone all thinking the same thing , attacking anyone who disagrees, supporting any movement, where this all ends up is exactly what people deserve. It starts with pulling statues down, consider where that ends up every time people get told to care about something , because next month it will be something new.
There once was a time where having an opinion was a thing, now it's hive mentality that is no better then 100 years ago, attacking people who disagree. All because you believe you are all right.
Like your great grandparents did 100 years ago.
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