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[tsubaki]

Ha

You reply to my post with telling me my opinion is wrong.

Thank you for proving my point.

Kind of hard to debate opinion vs reality, especially when you cite evidence that is more in line with my argument than yours.

 

[ramacca]

Oh mate!!

A brave black woman tries to help a white man.

 

[JLW]

er - yes it did, the cop tries to detain the bloke, and they end up in a bundle on the floor. The suspect moves his hand up to the officers face as they roll around. The others intervene and then she comes over to try and keep them off him. Him and the suspect then struggle up together and move over to the rail, still grabbing each other, she gets assaulted as well whilst trying to help her mate and keep them off him. Trying to pretend she wasn't assaulted is kind of offensive in and of itself, tbh



Yes, and if the cop hadn't detained the suspect he wouldn't have been assaulted. The point you are deliberately missing is that this incident happened because the cop was doing his job (detaining someone for an assault), not because he was white.

If he didn’t want to be arrested why didn’t he run away or struggle to be detained? If the copper would of been choking him out it would of been deemed racist right? Of course it would of.

 

[Yid4life]

I'm not sure why anyone would be against Antifa and particularly BLM though. I mean BLM have actually come out and said they don't support these protests. Read their national statement. They don't support the protests, they have condemned the violence and at no point had called for the tarnishing of war memorials. The problem is we have a media, egged on by lots of right wing outliers who get given prominent platforms who are allowed to share misinformation that makes it look as if BLM are doing this stuff. It's patently untrue. They are a community based organisation, that believe in none violent protest and trying to help and support the black community.

I think for a lot of people who have it clear they are against them, there is probably some ignorance about what they stand for, which is forgiveable. I don't think thats racist, it's just people have not taken the time to read their statements and unfortunately take what a hostile media say at face value. I have to say though, the prominent political figures, who are leading movements against them (Your Tommy Robinsons, Katie Hopkins, DFLA etc) who do read such statements, it's hard to come to any conclusion other than that they are racist if they believe a peaceful organisation who want to help their own community are wrong and need to be opposed.

As for Antifa, in essence we are all antifa as it is short for anti-fascist. There's a section I don't really agree with myself. I don't like the fetishising of violence and have never felt it is a particularly useful tactic against fascism.

In both instances though, I do think it's worthwhile acknowledging what the organisations stand for, at the top of their organisations, and what people do on the ground are different things. Thats my two pennies worth anyway.

They aren't anti. They just aren't actively pro.

 

[tsubaki]

If he didn’t want to be arrested why didn’t he run away or struggle to be detained? If the copper would of been choking him out it would of been deemed racist right? Of course it would of.

because the cop had hold of him, and he did struggle to be detained?

this would go a lot better if you actually watched the video

 

[JLW]

because the cop had hold of him, and he did struggle to be detained?

this would go a lot better if you actually watched the video

I’ve watched it mate or I wouldn’t be having this debate with you.
My point is the crime changes depending on the colour of the skin! It’s sad but true.

 

[Harryflashman]

If he didn’t want to be arrested why didn’t he run away or struggle to be detained? If the copper would of been choking him out it would of been deemed racist right? Of course it would of.

have you watched it ?

I don’t understand the twisting and turning that goes on in various threads over things . People attacking the police , Bad. Racist or OTT police Bad. Criminality is a crime , sometimes understandable but still a crime . All seems fairly straightforward to me .

 

[tsubaki]

I’ve watched it mate or I wouldn’t be having this debate with you.
My point is the crime changes depending on the colour of the skin! It’s sad but true.

You say that but you claimed she wasn’t assaulted and then that if the suspect wanted to get away he’d have struggled. Kind of hard to do that if you’ve seen it.

 

[JLW]

A brave black woman tries to help a white man.

No! Why are you focusing on her? To deflect away from the real incident

 

[Harryflashman]

I’ve watched it mate or I wouldn’t be having this debate with you.
My point is the crime changes depending on the colour of the skin! It’s sad but true.

The copper has tried to arrest someone and they’ve kicked off and assaulted him joined by others . That’s terrible and the video is bad , but I don’t understand why you want to make it a racial attack ? If the copper thinks it is then sound but he’s tried to arrest the fella and it’s kicked off.

maybe im not following something

 

[catcherintherye]

They aren't anti. They just aren't actively pro.

It just seems an odd thing to not be pro of. I am pro opposing fascism. I might not support other people who who also oppose fascism's methods and behaviour, but they don't define what it is to be opossed to fascism for me anyway.

 

[tsubaki]

maybe im not following something

TR on social media probably

 

[JLW]

have you watched it ?

I don’t understand the twisting and turning that goes on in various threads over things . People attacking the police , Bad. Racist or OTT police Bad. Criminality is a crime , sometimes understandable but still a crime . All seems fairly straightforward to me .

Yes I’ve seen it

 

[JLW]

TR on social media probably

Wrong

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

er - yes it did, the cop tries to detain the bloke, and they end up in a bundle on the floor. The suspect moves his hand up to the officers face as they roll around. The others intervene and then she comes over to try and keep them off him. Him and the suspect then struggle up together and move over to the rail, still grabbing each other, she gets assaulted as well whilst trying to help her mate and keep them off him.

Wrong again.

The cop has the lad in a kind of triangle choke whilst stood and the lad is responding and resisting forcing his arm into the cops throat which leads to the fall. It is a struggle. Or maybe you think they both just decided to lie down and start choking each other


Also, when you say that I was

Trying to pretend she wasn't assaulted is kind of offensive in and of itself, tbh

Your insinuation is what is offensive and wrong again. Try reading posts before commenting, please.

I said

the thugs involved did not molest a woman in the way they did to her colleague.

That should be clear enough