LB - Left Back - Leighton Baines the best/world class?

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He's played against Robben for England he's also played against Ronaldo/Rooney/Valencia/NZogbia/Walcott/Kyle Walker/Gary Neville/Gareth Bale/Sagna/M Richards/Fabio/Glen Johnson/Bosingwa/Ivanovic/Ben Arfa not to mention scoring past world class keepers Joe Hart/Petr Cech.... and many many more consistently for years as well as steam rolling wigan to save that point bringing the best out of Cahill Fellaini Pienaar Jelavic all the midfield link up play dead ball specialist/shooting/passing/defending/crossing.... scoring high pressured 35 yard free kicks in the 119th minute against Chelsea Petr Cech.... and aslo had a big part in the England game the other day

This.

It's not the bloody Slovakian league, it's the biggest and most popular football league IN DER WERLD.
 
Which just so happens to be the league with some of the best players in world football, where he has never looked out of place. Chelsea, City, United, Arsenal. All Champions League regulars now and all teams he has played against and been boss against for years.

So if a team like Stoke for example get results against arsenal over the years, what does that say? Not much, it's a league where players play against pretty much the same side for years. They do regular homework on them etc.

A one off massive game against a Bayern, inter, real, barca, is totally different kinda of pressure that a league game. Big games, finals etc.

How do we know if he wouldn't choke?
 
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He's by and large untested against the very best in the biggest matches, and until he has, you can't honestly say that he's better or even as good as the others who do it week in week out.

yes and have u seen Marcelo against Messi I seem to see Messi annhilating him and every other Real player every match they play so even tho he rips apart there team does that mean that there all world class?
 
yes and have u seen Marcelo against Messi I seem to see Messi annhilating him and every other Real player every match they play so even tho he rips apart there team does that mean that there all world class?
Sorry meant to be saying if u dont play againt Messi your not world class as your measuring up tool?
 
So if a team like Stoke for example get results against arsenal over the years, what does that say? Not much, it's a league where players play against pretty much the same side for years. They do regular homework on them etc.

A one off massive game against a Bayern, inter, real, barca, is totally different kinda of pressure that a league game. Big games, finals etc.

How do we know if he wouldn't choke?

Would you call Cantona world class, mate?
 
[video=youtube;AjO5JWLh_H8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AjO5JWLh_H8[/video]

The fact that we got knocked out at home in the next round by bloody Reading after a moment like that is enough to give me a coronary thinking about it, just do one Everton.
 
[video=youtube;AjO5JWLh_H8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AjO5JWLh_H8[/video]

One of my favourite goals that. We were on the top bit about five rows from the front, my mate wen't so mental he nearly fell over the balcony.
 
I'm still waiting for the people saying he's not world class to say whether they think Neville Southall was.

Or what about Di Stefano, widely seen as one of the world's best ever players. He never made it on the international stage either.
 
So if a team like Stoke for example get results against arsenal over the years, what does that say? Not much, it's a league where players play against pretty much the same side for years. They do regular homework on them etc.

A one off massive game against a Bayern, inter, real, barca, is totally different kinda of pressure that a league game. Big games, finals etc.

How do we know if he wouldn't choke?

Wrong, Stoke are the biggest bogey team in the League and on any given day could beat any team in the world. As long as they defend well and keep a goal out the odds they will soon score off a set piece are very high... I cant stand playing them neither can any other team
 
He's played against Robben for England he's also played against Ronaldo/Rooney/Valencia/NZogbia/Walcott/Kyle Walker/Gary Neville/Gareth Bale/Sagna/M Richards/Fabio/Glen Johnson/Bosingwa/Ivanovic/Ben Arfa not to mention scoring past world class keepers Joe Hart/Petr Cech.... and many many more consistently for years as well as steam rolling wigan to save that point bringing the best out of Cahill Fellaini Pienaar Jelavic all the midfield link up play dead ball specialist/shooting/passing/defending/crossing.... scoring high pressured 35 yard free kicks in the 119th minute against Chelsea Petr Cech.... and aslo had a big part in the England game the other day

So are Lahm, Cole, Conterao, Marcello, Alba, etc all rated higher?
 
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