witchdoc187
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She needs to man up
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carolinablue232
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Just get rid of divisions and have one competition. If people think gender isn’t real and there’s not an advantage being biologically male, then no one should have a problem with that. Eliminate the controversy altogether.
You obviously can't, as it'd destroy womens sports. There'd be no reason to be a professional woman in 99% of sports. I know you're being facetious with the statement but it's just true.
Which, of course, highlights why this is so ridiculous.
It's akin to having an age limit on a competition. Say a Masters tournament where you have to be 60+, and someone comes along age 25 but 'identifies' as a 100 year old.
It's just too problematic obviously. You have to draw a line. It can't be done by testosterone because first off it isn't the only advantage, but secondly you'd have females taking testosterone up to the prescribed limit like a performance enhancing drug.
The likes of Semenya for instance - she's genetically male, in every other respect a woman, but... I'm sorry, once she was found to be XY, she should be disqualified from women's sport. It really does have to be that strict.
Lot of blokes got their knickers in a twist in this thread.
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Which is all cool. Wear what you like. I won't judge.
carolinablue232
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That’s my point. Either the biological difference is real or it isn’t. If your take is that it’s not real, then what’s the point of men’s and women’s divisions in the first place? The response will be, “It’s not fair to women to eliminate them”….Exactly
coollino
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I have no idea what the rules are in football but it wouldn't surprise me if a few women start playing for the 'mens' teams in the future. Particularly in the US or something.
carolinablue232
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Absolutely no chance. I know people hate it when it’s brought up but our women’s team, the best in the world, played a friendly against an FC Dallas U15 boys team and got beat by 3 clear goals. The best in the world got smoked by children. Personally I’ve played with several division one (top college level) women here, and they’re generally the most skilled but physically still struggle to keep up with men who played at lower levels than that. It’s just not close to the same once you reach any significant level of competition.
coollino
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Fair enough. I don't know anything about it really. I just wonder, say if a Williams sister, type comes along if they match the physicality.
Or just a freak of nature.
carolinablue232
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If you’re good enough, you’re good enough. Awesome if it happens. Just don’t think it will.
toffee82
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That's the thing with football. There will literally be millions of men/boys in the world better than the elite women due to the biological advantage alone. There are loads of secondary advantages such as playing against better players at an early age etc.
If they transitioned then they are still carrying some that advantage even if the physical attributes are diminished.
Oh you.
Gabe Lackmann
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No. 203 sweeps Williams
At the height of the Williams boom in 1998, an unofficial game took place in Australia after Serena and Venus claimed that no male player outside the top 200 could beat them.Up stepped a German known as Karsten Braasch who was ranked 203rd in the world and after first beating Serena 6-1, he then disposed of Venus 6-2.
"I didn't know it would be that difficult. I played shots that would have been winners on the women's circuit and he got to them very easily," said Serena.
"They wouldn't have had a chance against anyone inside the top 500 because today I played like someone ranked 600th to keep it fun," was Braasch's assessment.
Battle of the Sexes: When the World No. 203 swept the Williams sisters - MARCA in English
A great deal of controversy was created recently when former tennis pro John McEnroe claimed that multiple major winner Serena Williams would not be...
coollino
Player Valuation: £80m
No. 203 sweeps Williams
At the height of the Williams boom in 1998, an unofficial game took place in Australia after Serena and Venus claimed that no male player outside the top 200 could beat them.
Up stepped a German known as Karsten Braasch who was ranked 203rd in the world and after first beating Serena 6-1, he then disposed of Venus 6-2.
"I didn't know it would be that difficult. I played shots that would have been winners on the women's circuit and he got to them very easily," said Serena.
"They wouldn't have had a chance against anyone inside the top 500 because today I played like someone ranked 600th to keep it fun," was Braasch's assessment.
Battle of the Sexes: When the World No. 203 swept the Williams sisters - MARCA in English
A great deal of controversy was created recently when former tennis pro John McEnroe claimed that multiple major winner Serena Williams would not be...www.marca.com
I thought someone would know more than me on this as I didn't do any research. But I can imagine that would change later on in their career plus if they played different styles a lot then would adapt.
Gabe Lackmann
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The fact remains that the Williams sisters had, at that point won Grand Slams in mixed doubles at the French Open and Wimbledon, and this guy at 203 walked the dog on them. Biology means something. What shocks me is that the obvious must be proven.
coollino
Player Valuation: £80m
I think this proves my point more than yours. They improved a lot since 1998.
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