Transfer Rumour Lamine Kone

[Goat]

I'm in no way trying to be disrespectful, but I think you might be looking through blue-tinted glasses at the current status of EFC. In the modern game, cash is king. Clubs are no longer "big" because of what they did pre-1990. That applies equally to SAFC.

Some Everton fans think that our Title in 1987 matters or players these days care about whether we beat Bayern in 85.

As far as modern football players are concerned its all about what a team did last season, did they get Europa/CL, do they challenge for the title and yes, as you say, how much money they can offer.

A player picking between Everton or Sunderland would only care about who offered the most money.

So forgive the large sections of our fanbase who think we are still relevant as a football club in 2016.

 

[l4toffee]

Some Everton fans think that our Title in 1987 matters or players these days care about whether we beat Bayern in 85.

As far as modern football players are concerned its all about what a team did last season, did they get Europa/CL, do they challenge for the title and yes, as you say, how much money they can offer.

A player picking between Everton or Sunderland would only care about who offered the most money.

So forgive the large sections of our fanbase who think we are still relevant as a football club in 2016.

good post for a fat WOOL that .

 

[sageyefc]

good post for a fat WOOL that .

 

[Petit]

I don't know how some of these lads turn up for training the next day when your fellow players know how much of a diva you have been.

Is there no shame?

Saying that, I'd snap his hand off if he wanted to come here.

It's not like it was in the old days when there was actually togetherness and team spirit at clubs. Nowadays it's just about individuals maximising earnings during a limited time period, for footballers usually about 15 years. Reckon there's no shame since everyone would do the same if they could.

 

[Goat]

good post for a fat WOOL that .

Very unsavoury this.

 

[Deleted member 24970]

Some Everton fans think that our Title in 1987 matters or players these days care about whether we beat Bayern in 85.

As far as modern football players are concerned its all about what a team did last season, did they get Europa/CL, do they challenge for the title and yes, as you say, how much money they can offer.

A player picking between Everton or Sunderland would only care about who offered the most money.

So forgive the large sections of our fanbase who think we are still relevant as a football club in 2016.

Whilst I agree with what you said mout, I would like to add that its not even about CL footy anymore, its just a cheap phrase to use when moving to a rival or for more money. For example, now that Chelsea aren't in the CL this year, do not expect Romelu to go all anti-Chelsea. if they offer him a huge contract he will be off.

Same as Everton vs Sunderland, I think Kone would join Everton under our new 'project' but it wont be for any less than Sunderland are going to offer him. All about money im sure you will agree.

 

[Goat]

Whilst I agree with what you said mout, I would like to add that its not even about CL footy anymore, its just a cheap phrase to use when moving to a rival or for more money. For example, now that Chelsea aren't in the CL this year, do not expect Romelu to go all anti-Chelsea. if they offer him a huge contract he will be off.

Same as Everton vs Sunderland, I think Kone would join Everton under our new 'project' but it wont be for any less than Sunderland are going to offer him. All about money im sure you will agree.

Its about money solely yes, players go on about wanting CL football, but thats cos it offers worldwide exposure, much more than the Premier League, it leads to bigger better sponsorship deals, it helps sell their product, which is themselves.

Chelsea are a CL club, everybody knows that, dont let the fact they didnt make the CL once mask the fact that they play in the CL most seasons.

 

[neil999]

Some Everton fans think that our Title in 1987 matters or players these days care about whether we beat Bayern in 85.

As far as modern football players are concerned its all about what a team did last season, did they get Europa/CL, do they challenge for the title and yes, as you say, how much money they can offer.

A player picking between Everton or Sunderland would only care about who offered the most money.

So forgive the large sections of our fanbase who think we are still relevant as a football club in 2016.

we have a bit of star quality tho - koeman, barkley, lukaku

 

[Goat]

we have a bit of star quality tho - koeman, barkley, lukaku

Koeman was a star player, as a manager, hes not a star, Barks isnt even an International player and mention Lukaku to anybody not an Everton fan and I bet they say "going to Chelsea isnt he".

Dont get me wrong.

I worship Everton, for me its the best club in the world and that will never change, for me every year is 85/86, but thats not to say I cant look objectively at our standing in the modern game.

 

[Ashtonian]

I'm in no way trying to be disrespectful, but I think you might be looking through blue-tinted glasses at the current status of EFC. In the modern game, cash is king. Clubs are no longer "big" because of what they did pre-1990. That applies equally to SAFC.

Generally you are right, some fans on here or generally speaking are looking at everton as the pre 90's version where we actually were a force in football.

Sadly that is where we have come unstuck this summer, because as much as we can believe otherwise, we are no different to all the other clubs that we would laugh at for even thinking of signing a player like axel witsel, yet here we were finding out first hand exactly little these players care about joining.

In the general sense, to link int back to what you meant, the difference between everton and sunderland are the relegations, generally we would be seen as a safe club to join by the players we are actually signing. whereas sunderland is seen as a risky club to join in case you do finally go down this year (you won't). So in that situation, would you not want to get a pay rise and jump ship knowing you could be moving to a safe season and potentially platform to move even higher in the future?

 

[neil999]

Koeman was a star player, as a manager, hes not a star, Barks isnt even an International player and mention Lukaku to anybody not an Everton fan and I bet they say "going to Chelsea isnt he".

Dont get me wrong.

I worship Everton, for me its the best club in the world and that will never change, for me every year is 85/86, but thats not to say I cant look objectively at our standing in the modern game.

oh balls

 

[Goat]

oh balls

Im coming across as a bit doom and gloom.

Koeman is a good manager, ive got good feelings about the fella, he takes no crap, he runs a tight ship and he will get us competing, as an Everton fan im overjoyed hes in charge and I suppose the whole of football sat up and took notice when he joined us from Southampton, but straight away it was dismissed as "he only joined them for money" and he did, he didnt join us cos he enjoyed playing against us way back, he joined cos we offered him some serious cash money and we gave him the prospect of spending some money and building a good squad.

We sold him a dream, but we also gave him what he craves the most, money in da bank.

 

[bluestevon]

Koeman was a star player, as a manager, hes not a star, Barks isnt even an International player and mention Lukaku to anybody not an Everton fan and I bet they say "going to Chelsea isnt he".

Dont get me wrong.

I worship Everton, for me its the best club in the world and that will never change, for me every year is 85/86, but thats not to say I cant look objectively at our standing in the modern game.

Would go even further than your actually rather excellent last couple of posts mate.

Even success of the club including CL footy etc, doesn't matter overly, until the media, companies that sponsor get 'interested' in the club as one of the ones they will push at every opportunity then a club will still stay relatively in the same bracket as before success in regards to attracting players, really it needs a combination of both success and acknowledgement to break out that cycle.

Leicester a good case in point, even spurs really if they'd have won the league would be .

Even if we won the league this season, come next summer we'd still have our best linked away and we'd still struggle to attract players we supposedly aimed for this season.

 

[Dutch Toffee]

Some Everton fans think that our Title in 1987 matters or players these days care about whether we beat Bayern in 85.

As far as modern football players are concerned its all about what a team did last season, did they get Europa/CL, do they challenge for the title and yes, as you say, how much money they can offer.

A player picking between Everton or Sunderland would only care about who offered the most money.

So forgive the large sections of our fanbase who think we are still relevant as a football club in 2016.

Agree for a large part with that. I'm under no illusions that players pick us over our history and what we've done twenty to thirty years ago. Do think however that we still have the bigger pulling power compared to Sunderland, who have been fighting/flirting with relegation for quite a few years now. Players probably see us as the more stable option out of the two. Not claiming money is irrelevant in making that choice. We still have a very long way to go on our road to becoming a force again. Not even halfway there if you ask me for an honest answer. Still, think we're quite a few miles ahead of Sunderland on that same road.

 

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