Current Affairs Labour and Anti Semitism.......

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peteblue said:
Hahahaha........and let people look at it in even more detail.....
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Was kind of my point. I have read the story, and its an obvious attack on him. No surprise there.

But if his supporters are so certain its all tosh, why doesnt he call them out? I would if it was me.
 
roydo said:
Was kind of my point. I have read the story, and its an obvious attack on him. No surprise there.

But if his supporters are so certain its all tosh, why doesnt he call them out? I would if it was me.
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But you would know you were telling the truth, unlike Corbyn.....
 
roydo said:
Was kind of my point. I have read the story, and its an obvious attack on him. No surprise there.

But if his supporters are so certain its all tosh, why doesnt he call them out? I would if it was me.
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He is immensely frustrating. He will likely turn up at question period tomorrow prepared to discuss something important, like our collapsing schools, hospitals, transit, prisons, high streets... pretty much anything of public value in this country, really.

And then of course he'll be immediately attacked over the Israel issue and he'll react like he's surprised to be facing the question, when it should be absolute child's play to explain how tenuous and desperate so much of what they're slinging at him really is. It's not exactly a mark of great leadership when skwawkbox millennials (most of whom can't finish a tweet without alluding to global Zionist conspiracies) or even Owen Jones are providing more coherent defences of your position that you can yourself muster.

Foreign policy is one of the things he is most passionate about, but it's difficult enough to challenge the perceptions that emerge from our lopsided media coverage of the Middle East at the best of times.

It's harder still when one of the few things voters who only look up from Love Island twice year can remember about you is something vague about anti-semitism, just waiting for some corrupt oaf like Boris Johnson to trigger. It is long past overdue for a major Western political party to pursue a balanced, impartial approach to Israel - but it needs to be done properly, with a clear, coherent, assertive message rather than ceding the narrative and the initiative to the social media and the Daily Mail.

It can be all too easy to forget that winning arguments online is not the same as actually managing to change anything.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
I listened to a Jewish fella on LBC the other week, saying that if Corbyn became PM he and 30% of British Jews (his words) would leave the U.K., as they’d feel unsafe in a Corbyn lead country.

It was without doubt one of the most idiotic phone in calls I’ve ever heard. The bloke was seriously trying to float the idea that a Labour Govt would somehow produce a serious risk of actual danger to the Jewish community, he was no duck egg either, so it was both contrived and deliberate. It summed up the entire issue for me, as the idea of a U.K. Govt having an issue with Israel that it was prepared to stand up and speak openly about, is obviously so abhorrent to Israelis that they’re absolutely desperate to do whatever it takes to stop it happening. Deliberately conflating a perfectly reasonable position of calling out Israel with anti semitism is low, but a tactic that Israel has used for decades.
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Spot on.
 
Joey66 said:
They will when voting day comes - a half decent leader unlike Corbyn would march into no 10 with ease.......
As it stands now the Tories infighting, and he is mixed up in Anti Semitic values ......
Untill they select a noteworthy Labour leader- I will stay away from voting!
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They wont need you mate. They'll win anyway!

I repeat: no one is arsed with "anti-Semitism" issues when they go into the ballot booth. No one cares. No one.
 
superblue123 said:
I bet you don’t even think that Labour has an anti-semitism problem, and that this is all a game of smears and witch hunts.

Maybe they were just areas with a large Jewish population that voted against Labour candidates because of the anti-semitism seen in all levels of the party or Corbyn’s inaction following meetings with the mainstream Jewish organisations to combat anti-semitism seriously (an act Corbyn himself admitted just a week ago). British Jews have legitimate concerns.
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Yes, that is what I think. There is no anti-semitism. There is anti-zionism, and that's all. Rightly so too. Long may thousands of good people continue to shine a light on Israeli atrocities and their filthy apartheid system.
 
peteblue said:
You are right on one point at least, more and more people are seeing through his behaviour......
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Really don't think they are, the opposite in fact, it will force people to him, take him to task on policy don't go in with some truth with all negatives made up, he will walk through them like a martyr.



roydo said:
Was kind of my point. I have read the story, and its an obvious attack on him. No surprise there.

But if his supporters are so certain its all tosh, why doesnt he call them out? I would if it was me.
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It's a case of here is the rope do as you please Daily Fail. Seems to be working on other angles as well, he has managed to bring up Palestine with Netanyahu and public criticize the killings of civilian protester's, all 160 men women and children, a good week at the office if you ask me.
 
davek said:
Yes, that is what I think. There is no anti-semitism. There is anti-zionism, and that's all. Rightly so too. Long may thousands of good people continue to shine a light on Israeli atrocities and their filthy apartheid system.
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This is an extreme view, and unfortunately, this makes you part of the problem. Jeremy Corbyn, Lansman, Momentum, Owen Jones etc etc. all acknowledge the anti-semitism in Labour. Even Willsman said in his apology that anti-semitism exists in Labour... although I imagine you think he was coerced to say that by the Zionist lobby! How can you honestly say there is no anti-semitism in Labour?

I do love the confidence you have from one poll that puts Labour ahead today by 1 pt (in a week where Conservatives have been rightfully criticised for Islamaphobia in the party, and in a time where the Conservatives are making a dreadful time of Brexit). I imagine if Labour were behind in today's poll; no doubt you would be giving it the bigguns of how polls are an establishment ploy and will be proved wrong at the next election just like in 2017.
 
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