Current Affairs King Charles III

[Spadge Vernacular]

Marlene has got herself into a right fight here innit.

 

[peteblue]

When you fired people for gross misconduct back in your arms-dealing days, did you weigh up how much they liked their job as part of your decision?

Of course not, but nor did I take any notice of people claiming abuse and verbal violence during a conversation…

 

[d34noj]

I agree Ms Fulani is milking the situation somewhat.

Having seen her on TV sporting clothes with the colours of the Senegal flag, to ask where she was from would not be an unreasonable question. However for me, where it changes from innocence to ignorance is the persistent failure to accept Fulani as British when she told her she was.

She essentially gave the equivalent answer you are using as an example, but it wasn’t accepted that she could be from Hackney, or British.

That Ms Fulani might be taking it further than you (or I) feel is necessary, doesn’t dilute a pretty gross example of sub conscious bias on the part of Susan Hussey.

I don’t know what her views are but reading the transcript of the exchange I am sufficiently informed to suspect that she could not accept Ms Fulani as British because of the colour of her skin and look of her hair.

It's almost as if she has a charity to plug.

 

[Yarrgh]

When you fired people for gross misconduct back in your arms-dealing days, did you weigh up how much they liked their job as part of your decision?

What constitutes gross misconduct in a business which sells weapons to despotic regimes with a long standing history of human rights abuses and using previously bought weapons against innocents?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

Of course not, but nor did I take any notice of people claiming abuse and verbal violence during a conversation…

"My colleague racially abused me!"

"Snowflake, get out of here with your claims of verbal violence"

 

[spectateur]

Pretty poisonous world we live when a woman gets racially abused by a posh white lady and people look to deflect or victim blame.

Racially abused, rubbish.
Have you ever been to Africa?
What about.
Hello white person, what you doing here.?
What you want white man.?
Etc.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Racially abused, rubbish.
Have you ever been to Africa?
What about.
Hello white person, what you doing here.?
What you want white man.?
Etc.

I could write an essay answering this as I have studied this fairly extensively.
I spent several weeks in Ghana carrying out a research project and was regularly stopped and spoken to cos I was white. All interactions were extremely friendly and made me feel pretty sad as I know that would not be the case with a role reversal back home. It’s an entirely different context as I was always assumed to be rich and educated.
Repeatedly asking someone where they are from in our society is long associated with various racist tropes including themes of not belonging and being an outsider as any member of a royal entourage should well know. Can’t imagine how it would feel to be repeatedly asked this.

 

[Yarrgh]

I could write an essay answering this as I have studied this fairly extensively.
I spent several weeks in Ghana carrying out a research project and was regularly stopped and spoken to cos I was white. All interactions were extremely friendly and made me feel pretty sad as I know that would not be the case with a role reversal back home. It’s an entirely different context as I was always assumed to be rich and educated.
Repeatedly asking someone where they are from in our society is long associated with various racist tropes including themes of not belonging and being an outsider as any member of a royal entourage should well know. Can’t imagine how it would feel to be repeatedly asked this.

Having grown up in that there Africa, I think that you got extremely lucky. Having said that, we should attend to our own house first and stamp out this insidious racism here before we start whatabouting other places.

 

[spectateur]

I could write an essay answering this as I have studied this fairly extensively.
I spent several weeks in Ghana carrying out a research project and was regularly stopped and spoken to cos I was white. All interactions were extremely friendly and made me feel pretty sad as I know that would not be the case with a role reversal back home. It’s an entirely different context as I was always assumed to be rich and educated.
Repeatedly asking someone where they are from in our society is long associated with various racist tropes including themes of not belonging and being an outsider as any member of a royal entourage should well know. Can’t imagine how it would feel to be repeatedly asked this.

Yes, agreed it's a different context. However the fact that people approached us, just because we are Caucasian and out of curiosity makes it racially motivated however benign.

 

[peteblue]

"My colleague racially abused me!"

"Snowflake, get out of here with your claims of verbal violence"

“What did he say”

”Asked me where I came from”

”Oh ffs”…..

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Yes, agreed it's a different context. However the fact that people approached us, just because we are Caucasian and out of curiosity makes it racially motivated however benign.

Well aye but the history, dynamic and associations are entirely different.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Having grown up in that there Africa, I think that you got extremely lucky. Having said that, we should attend to our own house first and stamp out this insidious racism here before we start whatabouting other places.

Of course. Africa is often lumped together as one place which doesn’t help matters either. Certainly imagine having different interactions in South Africa and Zimbabwe and in the Northern countries.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

“What did he say”

”Asked me where I came from”

”Oh ffs”…..

Maybe you could run an experiment by going into a majority non-white area and ask people:

‘Where are you from?’

‘No, where are you REALLY from?’

And see how people react.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

“What did he say”

”Asked me where I came from”

”Oh ffs”…..

"Obviously, I as your boss, am far better placed to understand your experiences of racism than you."

 

[peteblue]

Maybe you could run an experiment by going into a majority non-white area and ask people:

‘Where are you from?’

‘No, where are you REALLY from?’

And see how people react.

I take your point, but the experiment would be to go to a majority non-white area and if someone asked me where I was from I’d tell them. I wouldn’t go bleating to the Media and appear on the TV. The difference being I’d just give an answer and not immediately seek a grievance and feel as though I’ve just been abused and suffered verbal violence…..let’s at least do like for like here…..