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[Allezfan]

What the [Poor language removed] is a false number 9?

A striker who can't head.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

bet he's ace at hand shadows, that t rex is superb

 

[Fleming33]

What the [Poor language removed] is a false number 9?

Basically having an AM as a deep lying striker, usually with 2 wingers either side. Basically having no striker, a role suited only for the best players though (see: Lionel Messi)

 

[Elong]

Basically having an AM as a deep lying striker, usually with 2 wingers either side. Basically having no striker, a role suited only for the best players though (see: Lionel Messi)

In other words a central attacking midfielder (CAM), or even better, plain old number 10.

 

[Allezfan]

In other words a central attacking midfielder (CAM), or even better, plain old number 10.

Sure basically it's a number 10 who takes the position on the pitch where a number 9 normally does.

Fabregas for spain is the example people always use, in that technically he's the most advanced player in the team so the number 9 (you know poacher, holding the ball up type) but he acts like a number 10 (dropping deep, playing the fall forward).

False number 9 is a wanky expression but it's a useful concept for a defence to have in mind. When Hungary became the first team from outside the british isles to beat england in england it was largely because england's CB couldn't cope with his opposite number dropping back into midfield and not staying solely in the penalty box, as he was 'supposed' to. He didn't know whether to follow him or not. Knowing that your opposition number 9 isn't likely to play that way means you're prepared for that in advance.

 

[Elong]

Sure basically it's a number 10 who takes the position on the pitch where a number 9 normally does.

Fabregas for spain is the example people always use, in that technically he's the most advanced player in the team so the number 9 (you know poacher, holding the ball up type) but he acts like a number 10 (dropping deep, playing the fall forward).

False number 9 is a wanky expression but it's a useful concept for a defence to have in mind. When Hungary became the first team from outside the british isles to beat england in england it was largely because england's CB couldn't cope with his opposite number dropping back into midfield and not staying solely in the penalty box, as he was 'supposed' to. He didn't know whether to follow him or not. Knowing that your opposition number 9 isn't likely to play that way means you're prepared for that in advance.

It really does sound wanky calling it a false 9 though I mean it's a position I play for my local team but I'd never call me a "false 9". To be honest though I'm supposed to be in the box more but I'm a lazy [Poor language removed] and sit around the top of it more often than in it. Been some great players in recent history in that position in the Premier League, Sheringham and Cantona spring to mind.

 

[canuck]

What the [Poor language removed] is a false number 9?

An upside down number 6?

 

[Allezfan]

It really does sound wanky calling it a false 9 though I mean it's a position I play for my local team but I'd never call me a "false 9". To be honest though I'm supposed to be in the box more but I'm a lazy [Poor language removed] and sit around the top of it more often than in it. Been some great players in recent history in that position in the Premier League, Sheringham and Cantona spring to mind.

Cantona, maybe. Think Sheringham tended to play as an actual number 10 with an actual number 9 (Shearer, Cole, Solskjaer, Rebrov whoever) on the pitch too.

The wanky thing about it is you play with your two forward players both being sheringham type players (say berbatov and ruiz at fulham or fabregas and silva for spain) you call one a false number nine but if you play with two poachers up front you don't call one a false number ten.

It's a stupid name that comes from the idea that all forward pairings must be a creator and a poacher and anything else is a deviation. I don't see how saying "we're playing a number 10 and a false 9 up front' is an improvement on saying 'we're playing two number 10 type players up front'.

 

[Titus Bramble]

An upside down number 6?

I think this is the winning answer.

 

[efcfanwirral]

Basically having an AM as a deep lying striker, usually with 2 wingers either side. Basically having no striker, a role suited only for the best players though (see: Lionel Messi)

Could say it was pioneered by David moyes the season before last with Cahill playing there in those games he didn't think we were good enough to try and win. I didn't see anyone else doing it til after that.

In the moyes situation though, I think it could more accurately be known as 'not bothering to play with any strikers' than any kind of tactical genius....