2017/18 Jordan Pickford

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I think he's done it a few games mate and i think he just has to choose when to do it and when not to. Lyon away and Saints away are 2 games which stick out where he was too keen to get us moving up the pitch but we had no shape so the ball just came back and it just increases pressure.

I love him thoigh mate, it' something I want him to keep trying and the more experience he gets the more he will start picking and choosing when to release it quick or when to slow the pace of the game down and wait for the team to get their shape again.

Yep.

Just needed a cooler head at times.

That being said it was clearly part of the gameplan - he was just executing it poorly.

As far as actual goalkeeping went though, he had little to do.
 

But saying you couldn't care less what a keeper kicks like suggests your opinion wouldn't change even if he did kick like that every game, which is what I was replying to. If you've changed your mind then fair enough, I agree.

Yes I don't expect keepers to pick people out with pinpoint accuracy, but finding touch or the opposition keeper with great regularity as he did yesterday is disappointing.

As I've already said, it's a minor gripe with what was an otherwise good performance, I just think it's worth commenting on.

It was clearly a tactic - he just wasn't executing the kicks well.

And on the occasions his kicks reached their target, DCL or Niasse failed to do anything with it.
 
Yep.

Just needed a cooler head at times.

That being said it was clearly part of the gameplan - he was just executing it poorly.

As far as actual goalkeeping went though, he had little to do.

I think it might have been the west ham game Toff where I noticed he was taking his time a lot more ( or he punted one too quick and Rooney said something and from then on he just took his time ).

Deffo a game plan yesterday but poorly executed. That can happen though. Like you said he didn't have a lot to do but what he did do ( commanding his area and taking a couple of great crosses) he done well.

Once we've sorted out that back 4 we will be sound because this kid is the real deal imo
 
But saying you couldn't care less what a keeper kicks like suggests your opinion wouldn't change even if he did kick like that every game, which is what I was replying to. If you've changed your mind then fair enough, I agree.

Yes I don't expect keepers to pick people out with pinpoint accuracy, but finding touch or the opposition keeper with great regularity as he did yesterday is disappointing.

As I've already said, it's a minor gripe with what was an otherwise good performance, I just think it's worth commenting on.

Not once did I say I couldn't care less. He will be under instruction to try and find DCL. You can see when he gets the ball that DCL is on the move expecting it. It is still a gamble punt a percentage play. Regardless of his kicks I for one am very happy we have him as our keeper. What other keeper in the league tries to set up counter attacks like pickford?
 
Barely had to make a save vs the dutty rats, but did what he had to well making nice claims generally allowing us to feel calmer about what's happening in the box.

His kicking was atrocious but credit where it's due otherwise.

More please Picko
 

It was clearly a tactic - he just wasn't executing the kicks well.

And on the occasions his kicks reached their target, DCL or Niasse failed to do anything with it.
Well yes I think that's pretty obvious, the poor execution was what I was commenting on.

Not once did I say I couldn't care less. He will be under instruction to try and find DCL. You can see when he gets the ball that DCL is on the move expecting it. It is still a gamble punt a percentage play. Regardless of his kicks I for one am very happy we have him as our keeper. What other keeper in the league tries to set up counter attacks like pickford?
I was replying to two posts at the same time, it was the other one - which you had liked - which said 'I really don’t care where he kicks it to'.
 
Allardyce will not ever want the back four messing about on the ball, passing it between each other. Pickford will be under instructions to just knock it long virtually every time. The next problem will then be to improve the support the front man is going to get should Pickford get his line right.
 
It takes two people to complete a successful pass. Calvert-Lewin alone is not strong enough to out-muscle two centre halves and win the ball from clearances. And yesterday he had no help at all from Niasse. Of course the ball quickly came back.

From the Telegraph; Allardyce made constant use of that bouncer’s earpiece he wears, communicating with his assistant, Craig Shakespeare, sitting in the stand.

One wondered what the ex-Leicester manager was telling him: that Liverpool completed 266 successful passes to Everton’s 43 in the first 45 minutes, perhaps or that his team were enjoying just 21 per cent of the possession, the lowest in Premier League history.

Maybe he was reporting he’d just asked Steve Walsh, sitting beside him, what precise definition of the director of football’s job it was that led him to sign Gylfi Sigurdsson instead of Mo Salah.
 
Barely had to make a save vs the dutty rats, but did what he had to well making nice claims generally allowing us to feel calmer about what's happening in the box.

His kicking was atrocious but credit where it's due otherwise.

More please Picko

Think JP needs to take about 15% off the power he's putting into his clearances, it's been noticeable in the last three or four games just how many are now going all the way through to the opposition goalie of into touch.

Earlier in the season his kicking was more measured, more like passes from a sweeper... and that's what we need more of if we're going to play long rather than pass out from the back.
 
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Not sure if mentioned but just want to shop some appreciation for the Oxlade-Chamberlain cross where he came out and smothered Mane, iv watched a lot of gks but don’t think iv seen any come for whipped in crosses like Pickford.
 
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Our hold-up play was equally as bad.

End of the day, he wasn't called upon to make a save apart from the Coutinho one at the end.

He took charge when required and constantly communicated with the defence as always. Could do nothing for their goal.
I don't disagree with anything you said, just that him sending the ball out almost always resulted in turning the ball over.
 

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