Jon moss

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Worst of a very bad bunch of clowns. Michael Oliver is the only one I have any trust in. The rest are an absolute shambles.

Not enough was made by the gutter sports press in this country of the fact that FIFA did not see English referees as having the correct competency standards worthy of the World Cup. That is a scandal in my opinion, how can the most watched, well funded league on earth have the worst referees not just of the major leagues, but plenty of minor nations too?
 


He had a similarly suspect performance when City beat us 3-1 under Martinez. Denied us a clear penalty, gave them a soft one and didn't give a red to Milner.

Roberto Martínez certainly had grounds for complaint. Had Jon Moss, the referee, given Everton the penalty they deserved for a shove by Matija Nastasic on Romelu Lukaku, or James Milner been sent off for a reckless challenge on James McCarthy either side of Manchester City taking a 2-1 lead, things might have turned out differently for the Merseyside club.
 
Definitely we are far too nice, mourinho klopp would be shouting from the roof top if that was awarded against them ,and even kicking the ball out of play when Pogba went down then jumped up again when we kicked the ball out.

Sad thing is how many times have we said this over the years. Not once has one of our managers had the bottle to take on the FA / Refs.

I said it years ago forget calls for managers who play x,y,z we need a manager who isnt afraid to call out the authorities as said managers get the deicisons go in their favour.
 
I think there is a good argument that this clown got 4 potentially match changing decisions wrong yesterday.

1. The Martial dive.
2. Young could and probably should have been red carded for the wild lunge on Digne.
3. Gueye could easily have saw a second yellow just before half time.
4. The fact Smalling stayed on the pitch for the foul on Richarlison is mind boggling.

4 really poor decisions I thought. 3 against us.
 
Atkinson Clattenburg Mason Moss Taylor Probert. The kopite cartel.

Marriner, Oliver, are just incompetent but at least are incompetent for everyone.

Roger East seems to be ok. I used to like Phil Dowd as well.
 
It'll help. It will suck if it's slow, if it makes every goal a wait and see thing if it actually counts, but there's so much bad officiating it can't hurt.

Finally saw the pen this morning, it would have been overturned by VAR and the game could have been totally different. It would have been hard to spot gueye's touch in real time but I can't forgive moss for falling for martial's dive. I mean how is a professional so thick that they think someone jumping that high in the area from minimal contact isn't a dive? The diving in the prem is pathetic and I don't understand how referees fall for it, but this whole premier league season has been littered and ruined by incorrect decisions. They've got a few months to get VAR in for next season and working as good as it can be so that future seasons don't become more theatre production than football
 
Apart from Moss being an incompetent referee he also doesn't look fit enough to referee the game, it was highlighted on GOT last week how poor he is so his terrible performance hasn't been unexpected: The fact he puts these performances week in week out and is allowed to carry on in the premier league should come to the attention of those in charge: maybe the fact that it is mostly the top teams who benefit from his poor decisions is the reason he is allowed to get away with it.
 
just seen it again in slow mo, that is a horrendous decision that

united away we get that and arsenal away we get that offside what was even worse

not saying it's why we haven't won at the big grounds in how long but when you constantly have to deal with stuff like that it makes it near on impossible to get good results, disgusting it needs to be looked into further
 
Being completely honest When I saw the tackle my first thought was penalty , even when I saw it again I can see why it was given even despite the outrageous dive. As for united players I absolutely agree there could have been about four booking that weren’t dished out .
 
Jon Moss' recent performances especially Arsenal vs us - the offside goal the most memorable and his whole catalogue of errors in favour of City vs Burnley last week and now yesterday's game shows that controversy is a permanent theme when Jon Moss is the referee.

As I posted yesterday

It always used to be said that the best referees were the ones you hardly ever noticed, but by contrast you always know when it's JON MOSS as the referee.

The case for VAR I think is now unanswerable.

Even aside from the controversy at Old Trafford, the Laca handball goal for Arsenal (and perhaps a contentious Palace second penalty), the Forest handball to score against Leeds are perhaps two extremely obvious examples of decisions that could have been reversed.

If VAR is brought in in such a fashion where the officials running it are equally as incompetent as the ones on the field and with no thought given to best practice, which tbf was the case in the trial program last season, then it won't help but rather hinder the game.

The World Cup showed better practice and more pertinently for any new system introduced here is that it can be done from a resources and practical point of view, most of the top European leagues are now running with it and seeing benefits.

It will still unfortunately have its share of howlers getting through and won't completely eradicate the injustices or dreadful decisions by any means but it would vastly improve the percentage of correct ones.

As with other sports, when initially introduced it is likely to be far from perfect and obvious flaws will need to be corrected, the trials currently running can never really simulate actual live match situations properly and can only take you so far. In other sports the systems were refined once introduced and did improve in time to a point where now the benefits are unarguable. We really can't have the current comedy of errors where only the referee doesn't know much longer.

If Spain and Germany can run it successfully then it doesn't make any sense at all why the richest league of all should still be in the dark ages.

People once took a stand against goalmouth technology, even after system had been tested and shown to work, remember Mr.Corruption himself, Michel Platini?

What the refs said about yesterday

Why is it always Jon Moss? - you can excuse one or two in that maybe not in the right position etc, but controversy follows this man around. (He looks fairly hefty to me too)

Clattenburg clearly thinks it was incorrect

MARK CLATTENBURG: Man United should not have been awarded a penalty for Idrissa Gueye's tackle on Anthony Martial... the Frenchman exaggerated his movement to make it look like a foul


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... rtial.html

Keith Hackett's view

No VAR, no sense


Referee's view | Keith Hackett on the decision to award United a penalty against Everton
The penalty awarded by Jon Moss for the challenge by Idrissa Gueye on Anthony Martial was another example of how we desperately need VAR in the Premier League.

From the angle Jon had I can totally understand why he pointed to the spot. But as more replays became available it was obvious that Gueye had actually got a touch on the ball before making any contact with Martial, who then went on to fall far too theatrically.

I think VAR would have seen that touch and overturned the decision. It really does baffle me that we can see at home that the decision was questionable, but the referee can’t do anything about it, and I think that needs to change.
 
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