Current Affairs Joe Biden POTUS #46

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Blue 1 said:
You should really be saying "Too bad US imperialism can have such a devastating impact on a population". Religion isn't the main reason Iran is no longer a cosmopolitan democracy. The CIA assassinated a democratically elected leader of Iran over oil and the US-installed puppet Shah was such a horror the clerics seemed a welcome alternative. That's why Iran is the way it is today.
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I agree with your statement. America Imperialistic tendencies have made a mess of a lot of nations not just in the middle east but in Central and South America. The CIA has been culprit of many assassinations not just in Iran but also in Chile, a name that comes clearly in mind is Salvador Allende. The first Marxist president in Latin America who was loved by his people but the US saw as a great danger and after his apparent "suicide" they helped installed Pinochet, a dictator that abused and murdered it's people, specially young protesters like no other during the 80s. So you are correct! The US, and it's Imperialistic tendencies, for decades has interfered with others countries systems and installed government that have been favorable to this nation while horrible to their own people. Moreover, when I stated that religion can have such a devastating effects, I wasn't speaking exclusively of Iran. I was also referring the US and the effect far right christianity has on our government, specially Republican officials. So religion even here in the US is having a devastating impact on the population and it is affecting our governments.
 
Iran is definitely one of the countries in the middle east that I would love to visit. I actually wish I had a lot of money so I could stop working and just travel and experience other cultures for the rest of my life :)

I have also known several Iranians and they are warm and super bright people. Their culture and ebullience reminds me a lot of the Latin culture. I actually think I became pregnant in Austin while attending the wedding a good Iranian friend. Their wedding parties are so entertaining too. Just amazing people that like many other cultures around the world have been victims of far-right ideological/religious movement, just like it happened to a segment of our population with Trump.
 
Sassy Colombian said:
Iran is definitely one of the countries in the middle east that I would love to visit. I actually wish I had a lot of money so I could stop working and just travel and experience other cultures for the rest of my life :)

I have also known several Iranians and they are warm and super bright people. Their culture and ebullience reminds me a lot of the Latin culture. I actually think I became pregnant in Austin while attending the wedding a good Iranian friend. Their wedding parties are so entertaining too. Just amazing people that like many other cultures around the world have been victims of far-right ideological/religious movement, just like it happened to a segment of our population with Trump.
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That made me laugh....
 
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www.theguardian.com

Maybe I was wrong about Joe Biden – is he actually the progressive president I was waiting for? | Arwa Mahdawi

I was a Bernie fan, but Biden’s policies have impressed me. Still, I’m not hailing him as a ‘transformational’ leader just yet, writes Arwa Mahdawi
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He was far from being my choice, but his first major bill out the gate has (by the best estimates) cut poverty in the US by 1/3 and child poverty by 1/2.

What exactly WOULD qualify as "transformational"?
 
BirkenheadBlue said:
He was far from being my choice, but his first major bill out the gate has (by the best estimates) cut poverty in the US by 1/3 and child poverty by 1/2.

What exactly WOULD qualify as "transformational"?
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It’s good but to be fair poverty rates over the past 6 or so years have also dropped by about 1/3rd from where they were before, with annual declines each year...yes even during trumpy time which I don’t think anyone would’ve expected. Covid may have changed that but it’s slight if it did. So if all goes well he’s moving the needle about 3% I think. It’s great but it’s not what I would classify as transformational.
 
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carolinablue232 said:
It’s good but to be fair poverty rates over the past 6 or so years have also dropped by about 1/3rd from where they were before, with annual declines each year...yes even during trumpy time which I don’t think anyone would’ve expected. Covid may have changed that but it’s slight if it did. So if all goes well he’s moving the needle about 3% I think. It’s great but it’s not what I would classify as transformational.
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% of US population living in poverty was about 10.5% So yeah, shifting that by 1/3 is about 3.5%

Which is definitely the most unimpressive way to describe the effect of the bill.

But when you consider that's about 12.25m people who just got lifted out of poverty.... Not bad for a day's work. Or to put it another way, using your own stat above, that one bill accomplished what it took a growing economy 6 years to do.
 
BirkenheadBlue said:
% of US population living in poverty was about 10.5% So yeah, shifting that by 1/3 is about 3.5%

Which is definitely the most unimpressive way to describe the effect of the bill.

But when you consider that's about 12.25m people who just got lifted out of poverty.... Not bad for a day's work. Or to put it another way, using your own stat above, that one bill accomplished what it took a growing economy 6 years to do.
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How long will it take for the effects to be felt that gets to that 3.5%? I genuinely don’t know but Its not like it’s already happened. Like “Hey, Joe signed it and now I’m not poor anymore! Yay.” What’s the tail look like? A year? 2 years?

And of course describing the percent impact is the right and fairest way to look at impact. If we started at 90%, that’s drastically different in terms of impact. Saying it reduces by 1/3rd skews the picture without the contact of what the starting point actually is.

No one has said it wasn’t a good thing either.
 
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carolinablue232 said:
How long will it take for the effects to be felt that gets to that 3.5%? I genuinely don’t know but Its not like it’s already happened. Like “Hey, Joe signed it and now I’m not poor anymore! Yay.” What’s the tail look like? A year? 2 years?

And of course describing the percent impact is the right and fairest way to look at impact. If we started at 90%, that’s drastically different in terms of impact. Saying it reduces by 1/3rd skews the picture without the contact of what the starting point actually is.

No one has said it wasn’t a good thing either.
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The effect will be felt much faster than you think. According to the Urban Institute, which looked at the impact of the child tax credit, stimulus payments, unemployment benefits extension and food stamps boost will meant that 16 million fewer people will be living in poverty in 2021. That's a lot of people specially when so many families are going hungry at the moment in this country. 22.5 million adults, or 10.5%, said their household sometimes or often didn't have enough to eat in the past seven days, according to the most recent Census Household Pulse Survey, which covers February 17 to March 1. Among households with children, the figure was 14.4%. so for many families this piece of legislation is going to make a difference for the next year. According to Christopher Wimer, co-director of the Center on Poverty & Social Policy at Columbia University. This is one of the biggest, most fundamental changes to anti-poverty policy that the US has seen since the 1960s.
 
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Another segment of the US population that's going to be receiving much needed relief are black farmers. The bill devotes $4 billion to debt relief for farmers of color with outstanding USDA loans.

 
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