Current Affairs Joe Biden POTUS #46

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Yes, of course. I suspect no one here is saying they'd choose him if given a choice among a large set of qualified candidates, but speaking for myself (and likely others) I'm a "never Trumper" and the reason for this stance is best described in this tweet:



But other than being ‘not Trump’, what qualities or skills will he bring to the post of President....
 
But other than being ‘not Trump’, what qualities or skills will he bring to the post of President....

Other than a lifetime of public service and achievement within that sphere, eight years being VP to a President that was by every measure better than this one, an actual history of bipartisan activity and understanding of (and respect for) the opposing view, being not demonstrably criminal and corrupt, being less likely to ruin the economy by caning the debt (which is all Trump has done) and not being backed by Murdoch (which is almost the sine qua non of rulers who want to destroy their own country nowadays)?

Biden winning would even save the Republican Party, turning it back into something that at least pretended to care about the Constitution and some kind of law and order rather than the party of sticking its fingers in its ears and screaming as loud as they can.

As an aside, I was watching old Reagan videos a few days ago and came across the video below (which appear to mostly be from around 1988). Do you remember when people looked at him then and thought there was evidence of cognitive decline (which of course there probably was, given his subsequent diagnosis)?



He is about 10000% more switched on than Trump is, despite that being from when he was 77 (so three years older than Trump is now).
 
Other than a lifetime of public service and achievement within that sphere, eight years being VP to a President that was by every measure better than this one, an actual history of bipartisan activity and understanding of (and respect for) the opposing view, being not demonstrably criminal and corrupt, being less likely to ruin the economy by caning the debt (which is all Trump has done) and not being backed by Murdoch (which is almost the sine qua non of rulers who want to destroy their own country nowadays)?

Biden winning would even save the Republican Party, turning it back into something that at least pretended to care about the Constitution and some kind of law and order rather than the party of sticking its fingers in its ears and screaming as loud as they can.

As an aside, I was watching old Reagan videos a few days ago and came across the video below (which appear to mostly be from around 1988). Do you remember when people looked at him then and thought there was evidence of cognitive decline (which of course there probably was, given his subsequent diagnosis)?



He is about 10000% more switched on than Trump is, despite that being from when he was 77 (so three years older than Trump is now).




It really is a mad question imo. What does the lifelong public servant have that the hopelessly moronic, corrupt gameshow host doesn't?
 
Why is Biden a better pick?

this excerpt from John Boultons book essentially nails it:

The president (G. W. Bush) began his formal day in the Oval Office with an 8:00 a.m. intelligence briefing that would include the president, the vice president, National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft and me. That meeting, the President’s Daily Briefing (PDB), was presented by the CIA and would take ten to fifteen minutes. Following that, always on the calendar for 8:15, was a separate half hour for Scowcroft to bring the president and us up to date on all foreign policy issues arising from the events that occurred overnight or were expected during the course of the upcoming day. That briefing segued into a similar one at 8:45 that I would lead, addressing all other issues beyond foreign policy. Scowcroft usually stayed for that as well. My meeting was scheduled to end at 9:15.1

I would have thought I had died and gone to heaven to have had such an orderly approach to preparing for an upcoming day. As it was, Trump generally had only two intelligence briefings per week, and in most of those, he spoke at greater length than the briefers, often on matters completely unrelated to the subjects at hand.

In early June 2018, for example, Kelly tried a new tactic on Trump’s schedule, beginning each day in the Oval, at eleven a.m., with “Chief of Staff” time, hoping to minimize the rambling lectures he delivered during his twice-weekly intelligence briefings. Of course, what most people found striking was that Trump’s “official” day didn’t start until almost lunchtime. Trump was not loafing during the morning. Instead, he spent considerable time working the phones in the Residence. He talked to all manner of people, sometimes US government officials (I spoke with him by phone before he arrived in the Oval nearly every day due to the press of events he needed to know about or I needed direction on), but he also spoke at length to people outside the government. It was an anomaly among contemporary Presidents by any definition.
 
Other than a lifetime of public service and achievement within that sphere, eight years being VP to a President that was by every measure better than this one, an actual history of bipartisan activity and understanding of (and respect for) the opposing view, being not demonstrably criminal and corrupt, being less likely to ruin the economy by caning the debt (which is all Trump has done) and not being backed by Murdoch (which is almost the sine qua non of rulers who want to destroy their own country nowadays)?

Biden winning would even save the Republican Party, turning it back into something that at least pretended to care about the Constitution and some kind of law and order rather than the party of sticking its fingers in its ears and screaming as loud as they can.

As an aside, I was watching old Reagan videos a few days ago and came across the video below (which appear to mostly be from around 1988). Do you remember when people looked at him then and thought there was evidence of cognitive decline (which of course there probably was, given his subsequent diagnosis)?



He is about 10000% more switched on than Trump is, despite that being from when he was 77 (so three years older than Trump is now).

Also striking about that video is how Reagan is making dad jokes about, and very much humanizing, a group of people whose political ideology was so counter to the US’s that we had been locked in a Cold War with them for nearly half a century. Meanwhile, Trump tries to make it seem like Democrats are going to drag your children from your house, rape and murder them while you watch, and then come for you next. All to accomplish their radical goals of equal treatment for people of all races, maybe curbing some gun ownership so our children don’t continue to be slaughtered at school, and provide access to health care for everyone.
 
It really is a mad question imo. What does the lifelong public servant have that the hopelessly moronic, corrupt gameshow host doesn't?
Kind of makes me think it's along the lines of this part...

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But other than being ‘not Trump’, what qualities or skills will he bring to the post of President....

Sadly due to Trump, the following are considered good political skills these days. Biden will bring the following to the office: not being a fascist, not being a 2x accused rapist, not being a racist, not being a pathological liar, not being idle upon hearing about a bounty on US soldiers, not being a narccicist, not being someone who foments violence on the far-right.

And he will bring some measure of experience since he was VP for 8 years, and a US senator from 1972 to 2008.
As for other things, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Joe_Biden
 
Gotta be honest - I'd think the military would be one demographic that would absolutely abhor Trump. So I'm not surprised Biden is leading here despite the military usually leaning GOP
The Lincoln Project is doing a virtual Veterans Town Hall tomorrow with several retired military leaders and national security officials speaking. Limit is 10,000 participants and I hear it's already booked well past capacity.
 
The Lincoln Project is doing a virtual Veterans Town Hall tomorrow with several retired military leaders and national security officials speaking. Limit is 10,000 participants and I hear it's already booked well past capacity.
Not surprised. He just seems the antithesis of everything the military stands for. Or is supposed to stand for. I can't imagine them taking orders from someone for which they have zero respect
 
It really is a mad question imo. What does the lifelong public servant have that the hopelessly moronic, corrupt gameshow host doesn't?
I think a better question is still, why Joe rather than Amy, Pete, or Kamala as the actual nominee. The Dems seem to have this union mindset where the last two elections they’re just match fixing their own game to pick who has been around longest rather than who is best for the job. Joe clearly has some problems, and the fact that it’s even a question for some moderate voters is ridiculous on the part of the democrats. I know some lifelong republicans and some independents that have already said they can’t vote for Trump but aren’t sure they can vote for Joe either. So there is a base that might just sit it out and in places like Florida and Ohio, that matters. Pick a decent candidate people! Why is it so hard now?
 
I think a better question is still, why Joe rather than Amy, Pete, or Kamala as the actual nominee. The Dems seem to have this union mindset where the last two elections they’re just match fixing their own game to pick who has been around longest rather than who is best for the job. Joe clearly has some problems, and the fact that it’s even a question for some moderate voters is ridiculous on the part of the democrats. I know some lifelong republicans and some independents that have already said they can’t vote for Trump but aren’t sure they can vote for Joe either. So there is a base that might just sit it out and in places like Florida and Ohio, that matters. Pick a decent candidate people! Why is it so hard now?
If Amy, Pete or Kamala were the better candidate then the clear question is... why didn't they beat Joe in the primaries?

I submit that if Joe is a question for some "moderate" voters then they probably aren't truly politically moderate. Further, if Tweetie isn't enough of a nightmare to vote for a cheese sandwich if that will make him go away, again I question their status as a political moderate.

As to the Republican and Independent voters, Dems need to pick off 5% of that crowd and simultaneously turn out their own base. They do that and it will be an Electoral rout. Won't be easy but it's doable.
 
I think a better question is still, why Joe rather than Amy, Pete, or Kamala as the actual nominee. The Dems seem to have this union mindset where the last two elections they’re just match fixing their own game to pick who has been around longest rather than who is best for the job. Joe clearly has some problems, and the fact that it’s even a question for some moderate voters is ridiculous on the part of the democrats. I know some lifelong republicans and some independents that have already said they can’t vote for Trump but aren’t sure they can vote for Joe either. So there is a base that might just sit it out and in places like Florida and Ohio, that matters. Pick a decent candidate people! Why is it so hard now?
well, not to put too blunt a point on it but a lot of moderate republicans wouldn't vote for pete because he's gay, Harris because she's a woman of color, Beto because of 2A fears. Amy might have been a pick but her legal background may have run her in to trouble with the left wing of the party.
The safest bet was to run on the coat tails of Obama's legacy with a moderate non offensive old white dude.
I don't think he's likely to make the whole term but he's probably what the democrats need to take the white house.
He has 9 more weeks to keep his crap together.
 
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