Current Affairs Joe Biden POTUS #46

[BirkenheadBlue]

I think you're minimising what he did and getting him off on a technicality really mate.

His defence is like saying on joining the KKK you only did it because you liked wearing hoods and riding on a horse. You didnt actually Support the lynching, it was just about the sense of southern pride and camaraderie that attracted you. (This is a common defence from members, and of course its rightly called out as utter rubbish).

Everyone knows what opposing the education authority in favour of the autonomy of southern states in the 60s/70s really meant. It's a black mark against Biden and we should be honest enough to acknowledge what it meant.

Oh it’s certainly a mark against him, but I believe (backed up by the evidence that he was not in favour of segregation as a practice, and said as much at the time, and by his other actions through time) that it’s the mark of an error of judgement on that policy, rather than a sign of racism.

Luckily no one has to vote for 1970’s Joe Biden, andthe current version has a fairly unimpeachable record on race.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Go way ou’ that. The corporate media was banging the Bernie unelectable drum as soon as he won the first three states they went into overdrive. Scaring the none independent media consumers and thinkers, the type of older demographic that actually watch that garbage.

Soon as Bernie was cleaning up the first three states the media went into overdrive. I seen clips everyday when it was happening on them scumbag corporate mainstream media channels. Along with the other corporate democrats went power ranger robot mode.

But the Tory Democrats on here will call me paranoid that news organisations owned by corporations and get paid advertising from corporations aren’t full of propaganda for the politicians that take corporate bribes “ every one of them. Except sanders. Even though the propaganda is there to see in record.

It’s not a conspiracy it’s just public domain. It’s just how the system is. It’s not a mind blowing cover up or exposè

It’s out in the open and it’s how things work.

Change a few proper nouns in here and this would be indistinguishable from a Trumpist rant.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Complete aside this, but it just sprang back to mind and I’m curious.

To those who think Bernie was the best pick to go against Trump, does it give anyone pause that both Trump and Russia seemed quite keen for him to be the nominee?

 

[Ruairi77]

Complete aside this, but it just sprang back to mind and I’m curious.

To those who think Bernie was the best pick to go against Trump, does it give anyone pause that both Trump and Russia seemed quite keen for him to be the nominee?

While he got impeached trying to stop Biden

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

While he got impeached trying to stop Biden

Indeed.

I assume that the answer will be something along the lines of “Trump was playing 3D chess, talking up the one person he didn’t want to face, as a double bluff”

 

[SteveSC]

Complete aside this, but it just sprang back to mind and I’m curious.

To those who think Bernie was the best pick to go against Trump, does it give anyone pause that both Trump and Russia seemed quite keen for him to be the nominee?

Exactly.

After Trump kept repeating socialist on twitter about sanders there were piece after piece on certain sites that preferred Sanders calling him a social progressive and not socialist because they knew socialist is still scary to alot of American's.

They want change and they want what we would call socialist ideal but a candidate who is a socialist makes them unsure.

Russia knows this as does the GOP and Trump's people.

All Trump has to do is spout nonsensical lies about socialism if he's up against Sanders.

Given that Sanders main platform was to overhaul Healthcare and do away with insurance companies that also scared people. Both left and right. Those that know thats a mountain to climb in 4 years and quite frankly a losing battle.

 

[Death]

This is just garbage. Post some facts to back up your claim. I bet you can't as always. You will probably say its one man's opinion again blah blah blah. At least with Abe and his pro Sanders stance he had article after article. You on the other hand never offer proof.

Expected no less from you.

If you want to live in fantasy land, fine go ahead.

The people voted and they voted Biden. All across America. They were not forced or spoon fed. They used their brains and chose who they felt would win. Unless you are calling them all stupid again like you did months ago. Which by the reason I give you so much stick.

Call me or anyone else what you like but the reality is you continue to be out of your depth with American politics and claim conspiracy at every turn. It can't always be someone else's fault. How about you the rest of the bros and learn a valuable lesson at takr ownership for the loss. Funny thing is it seems Sanders had but his base hasn't.

Sanders lost to Biden because of his arrogance. He wanted 18 to 25 year olds and as expected they didn't turn out. That has nothing to do with establishment or the media. He as many have mentioned doesnt have appeal with other voters like Blacks. Nor was he going to draw in those whomdont want Trump who are centre leaning or to the right

You are sadly typical of his supporters. Its everyone else's fault.

Sure the first time they may have tried screwing him. This time they didn't need too.

What proof are you after specifically And if I provide will you take back what you said about me being out of my debt.

Bernie is not out of the blame either your right he did have bad strategies. I commend his stratagey. I wouldn’t call him arrogant I’d call him naive. But it was a bad one.

But he had not got the media on his side and it’s no coincidence that he doesn’t take a cent of the people who run the show. Why do you think the minimum wage is so bad? How do massive corporations get away with tax and paying less? Why are America bombing several countries?

Why do these corporations and defence industries fund Democrats?

Do you want proof for that as well?

more than willing you Troublesome Democrat.

There is factual records of a good proportion of things I say even if I couldn’t be arsed to present to to your mob.

 

[Death]

Change a few proper nouns in here and this would be indistinguishable from a Trumpist rant.

The republicans are worse.

 

[SteveSC]

What proof are you after pacifically? And if I provide will you take back what you said about me being out of my debt.

Bernie is not out of the blame either your right he did have bad strategies. I commend his stratagey. I wouldn’t call him arrogant I’d call him naive. But it was a bad one.

But he had not got the media on his side and it’s no coincidence that he doesn’t take a cent of the people who run the show. Why do you think the minimum wage is so bad? How do massive corporations get away with tax and paying less? Why are America bombing several countries?

Why do these corporations and defence industries fund Democrats?

Do you want proof for that as well?

more than willing you Troublesome Democrat.

There is factual records of a good proportion of things I say even if I couldn’t be arsed to present to to your mob.

Until you stop calling people stupid and brainwashed ( not the exact words you used) for their choices and you start proving conspiracy and establishment claims then maybe.

Also drop the tory dem bs. With this nothing you say is serious because its wumming or childish or both.

You make claims of bias and conspiracy. You make claims that he was robbed. Start posting something to prove any of this.

You claim the media was pro biden. Prove it. I watch and read various news sources ranging from left to right in the US and clearly this did not happen.

Even if it did what does this have to do with the DNC? Are you saying the fed the news what to report? Prove it.

Thing is no Sanders employees or part of his base have been able to prove anything substantial if anything at all.

After those emails surfaced in 2016 it gave them ammunition going forward that if he ran again they could say the same thing blame the same thing. Problem is this time he was well beaten long before it was.in the hands of the DNC. So if you are claiming that all of the left that voted biden are somehow brainwashed by the media based on information fed to them by the DNC then you are posting in the wrong thread.

Politics is dirty. It always has been but if you are making claims back it up. Like those in the past have done to out corruption.

Notice how this time around its only his base shouting conspiracy and not his campaign team and backers.

Otherwise its just your opinion.

 

[sdk]

I missed Michelle Obama's speech so I guess I'll have have to wait until the Republican convention when Melania gives it.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

I missed Michelle Obama's speech so I guess I'll have have to wait until the Republican convention when Melania gives it.

lol lol lol

 

[catcherintherye]

Oh it’s certainly a mark against him, but I believe (backed up by the evidence that he was not in favour of segregation as a practice, and said as much at the time, and by his other actions through time) that it’s the mark of an error of judgement on that policy, rather than a sign of racism.

Luckily no one has to vote for 1970’s Joe Biden, andthe current version has a fairly unimpeachable record on race.

I agree with most of that, and to a degree we are at a very similar position.

I don't think the guy was or is a racist. I don't know that, but on the evidence that exists I would conclude he's not. He was prepared to work with racist individuals, and ultimately in the axis of education to take positions where the consequence (unintended or otherwise) were to strengthen the racial bias that existed within a specific though quite important area.

I was accused of a politicians answer, but it's quite complex, and I don't think we get anywhere by making bit broad statements from it. So as indicated, I don't think he was a segregationist, even if he supported and championed the segregationist position in one area.

There's a deeper point here. Which is people who aren't racist (which I suspect is Biden) often do things that often inadvertently uphold racism. The old adage of evils triumphs when good men do nothing is very true here. The big risk in relation to racism isn't really the hardened thug on the street in his Nazi apparell, but it's when decent people in powerful position turn a blind eye, accomodate racist politicians for the greater good, help amplify specificities of an argument (such as busing) over the broader context (the need to de-segregate schools). Biden is not the only want to be guilty of this, and he won't be the last to be guilty of it either.

I'm sure Biden would say he's done lots to combat racism as well, and that is also probably true, but it doesn't mean what he did with busing wasn't a blackmark or ultimately had the consequence of helping segregation. People we like, people we respect, people we would vote for, people who do lotsof good things can sometimes make mistakes. I price that in really. So I'm not going to call the guy a segregationist or a racist as it doesn't seem right, but I'm also not going to try and pretend what happened in the 70's was different to what it was.

 

[Death]

Until you stop calling people stupid and brainwashed ( not the exact words you used) for their choices and you start proving conspiracy and establishment claims then maybe.

Also drop the tory dem bs. With this nothing you say is serious because its wumming or childish or both.

You make claims of bias and conspiracy. You make claims that he was robbed. Start posting something to prove any of this.

You claim the media was pro biden. Prove it. I watch and read various news sources ranging from left to right in the US and clearly this did not happen.

Even if it did what does this have to do with the DNC? Are you saying the fed the news what to report? Prove it.

Thing is no Sanders employees or part of his base have been able to prove anything substantial if anything at all.

After those emails surfaced in 2016 it gave them ammunition going forward that if he ran again they could say the same thing blame the same thing. Problem is this time he was well beaten long before it was.in the hands of the DNC. So if you are claiming that all of the left that voted biden are somehow brainwashed by the media based on information fed to them by the DNC then you are posting in the wrong thread.

Politics is dirty. It always has been but if you are making claims back it up. Like those in the past have done to out corruption.

Notice how this time around its only his base shouting conspiracy and not his campaign team and backers.

Otherwise its just your opinion.

Stop like the rest of them with the straw mans. I never said Bernie was robbed. That would imply a rigged election or something.

Here is a survey done proves that after Bernies primary wins that CNNs coverage of Sanders was X3 times more negative than
Bidens.



I can provide alternative surveys if you like

list of Democrats taking big pharmalist



List of defence industries contributed to the Democrats



I can provide alternatives.

You are fighting a losing battle defending this stuff. History will judge that.

You may get the likes from the T dem clique. But History will ultimately give you and your circle jerk team a big unsure face.

 

[SteveSC]

Stop like the rest of them with the straw mans. I never said Bernie was robbed. That would imply a rigged election or something.

Here is a survey done proves that after Bernies primary wins that CNNs coverage of Sanders was X3 times more negative than
Bidens.



I can provide alternative surveys if you like

list of Democrats taking big pharmalist

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List of defence industries contributed to the Democrats

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I can provide alternatives.

You are fighting a losing battle defending this stuff. History will judge that.

You may get the likes from the T dem clique. But History will ultimately give you and your circle jerk team a big unsure face.

Ok fair enough. Its a start.

So you know what you have also proven is that Sanders took big pharma money more than Trump and less than Biden. He also ran with a party who takes defense contractor donations haha! Sounds like he has truely seperated himself from the pack

Thing is Turner Broadcasting who owns CNN gave more to the Republicans in both the last cycle and this cycle. Of the 6 board of directors 4 of the are registered Republican.

Anyway like I said yesterday in less you provide a link that their was collusion among the DNC and any of the networks all you.have is media companies chose to talk about Biden a little more. Media companies not owned by lefties.

As for your last two paragraphs haha! Hilarious! This post proves yet again you are out of you depth. Sure you start.making one point and then throw in charts proving your main guy to be just like the rest. Even when it wasn't asked for or discussed. If anything it proves they are all the same and Sanders was all talk.

 

[Death]

Ok fair enough. Its a start.

So you know what you have also proven is that Sanders took big pharma money more than Trump and less than Biden. He also ran with a party who takes defense contractor donations haha! Sounds like he has truely seperated himself from the pack

Thing is Turner Broadcasting who owns CNN gave more to the Republicans in both the last cycle and this cycle. Of the 6 board of directors 4 of the are registered Republican.

Anyway like I said yesterday in less you provide a link that their was collusion among the DNC and any of the networks all you.have is media companies chose to talk about Biden a little more. Media companies not owned by lefties.

As for your last two paragraphs haha! Hilarious! This post proves yet again you are out of you depth. Sure you start.making one point and then throw in charts proving your main guy to be just like the rest. Even when it wasn't asked for or discussed. If anything it proves they are all the same and Sanders was all talk.

Hahahah o my god do you not realise Bernie returned all that money back? It was a big thing. Thought you would have been informed on that been a former Bernie man.

You haven’t a clue do you?

Im out of my depth ? pffffft

Can’t take you seriously. Stop talking about the republicans also been corrupt child murderers ffs. Pathetic whataboutism.