Jealous of Chelsea or Man City

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When I chose an English team to follow, I chose Everton because everyone else was supporting the RS or Man Utd and to a lesser extent Arsenal. I wanted to go for the underdog that had a chance of winning something.

I really don't understand why people, when looking for a team to follow, choose the richest and most successful clubs. Where is the joy in that?
 
Not sure who is winning so far but AF's article from 1925 was pretty damn good.

... to answer OPs question ... there are only two possible answers:

a) People who are jealous and admit it.

b) People who are jealous but don't want to admit it.

I am in group A.

Look at it this way: Over the last twenty years or so which I can remember (most pre-10 years old stuff is kind of a blur aside from crying a lot on Cup Final day) I've seen one FA Cup win, one CL kind of qualification, a few nice moments, losing out on the only viable plan for improving our future (KD), a far less appealing stadium argument, a lot of very horrible near relegation seasons, and a whole lot of insane nonsense I won't bother typing out but it's in the board thread.

What if in another twenty years I was saying: Over the last twenty years or so I've seen six league titles, a bunch of domestic Cups, two CL titles, an owner who doesn't respect our history, new glory hunting fans who embarrass me, and a couple of players whom I truly did not like (despite the success they brought).

Isn't that just a similar situation of good/bad with some higher highs? It's pretty unlikely you're going to have super success and none of the negatives that come with that. Just seems like either way there is stuff that makes me angry ... why not take some titles too?

Doesn't really matter if one is "better" than the other ... I've had 20 odd years one way and I wouldn't mind giving the other way a shot. After 20 years of that we can sit back and fairly compare the two methods. Kind of like the Moyes stuff really: I liked him and he may well turn out to have been better than anyone else but it's fun and interesting to see what it's like on the other side of the fence (even if it turns out to be not as good).

LOL ... "nouveau riche" ... it baffles me anyone continues to use that phrase. There used to be hundreds of millions of people and maybe a hundred kings -- now there are billions of people and (according to Marco down below) 1,426 kings. Some of us sit in cubicles instead of working the fields or monging up some iron (although billions still work for pennies) but the basic system is effectively identical to how it has almost always been. What does it matter to me if some "high born" has all the money or some "nouveau riche" ex-mobster? It's a fairly meaningless distinction in so far as the impact of having so much wealth consolidated among so few is really the same no matter if it's old or new money.

... and yes I am jealous of both the nouveau riche and old money equally and would love to be a part of either group despite their vulgarity.

Support a club that is actually for sale?

Oh no it won't. Obviously they probably wouldn't be title contenders but unless the owners liquidate all the assets prior to leaving they'd still be in better shape than us for quite some time after the billionaires left. Chelsea (who are debt free now remember) could sell many of their top players and have a 100-200m war chest AND they have more money coming in from their stadium and CL. Unless the old/new owner was just out to take money from the club (and that is bad for any club it's hardly unique to them) they should be able to transition fairly easily from a top-3 side to a top-6 side.

I wouldn't want to do it every time but I'd give it a shot as a one-off to say I have.

You're wrong mate. There's 100's of years of history full of reasons why I'm proud to be an Evertonian. This period just happens to be another one. Things won't be this way forever and I'm optimistic things will change.

I'd welcome a takeover. I wouldn't be arsed if it was a city style one where we end up tvvatting the RS 6-1 at their gaff either. But I've got loads of reasons I'm not jealous.

BTW, I was actually quite pleased it was man city that got the jackpot takeover. They've been through the ringer and stuck with their club through thick and thin, mostly thin.
 
Well hopefully ... but there is a lot more room for change below us than above us.

You're not wrong. But I still wouldn't be jealous of another club. I might curse our own luck, or slate the people in charge, but never want to swap places with others.

We're Everton means a lot to me in this regard.
 
not envious in the slightest. in my eyes chelsea and city are not as historicaly big as everton regardless of there coffers.
my view in more internal. i wish liverpool didnt get us banned from europe , i wish peter johnson didnt run us into the ground , i wish bill had a better plan and more money when he bought the club and i wish the club was ran so it wasnt in debt , it didnt make up after muck up (fsf , ntl , kingsdock , kirkby , dodgy transfers - banega fer etc ) and i wish the club was in a position to build a stadium and own its own training facilitys perhaps . angry maybe at the course we took in the past few decades , but envious of others ? never
 
I would never want to be like any of these, I love how we strive for what he do each season and we have one thing these teams don't: Passion.

I would hate to have big egos at the club, Carlos Tevez would not fit in here nor would a handful if others. I love who we are and I know Bill Kenwright doesn't have much cash but he loves Everton and knows all about them unlike their chairmen who don't feel passionate for their club.
 
City fans are annoyed by this it would seem

Bloody hell lads, why are you even getting involved? Go away and enjoy your blood trophies and leave us to it.

I actually have less of a problem with City because at least they were a club who used to win things on a regular basis in the 60's. Chelsea were a decent cup team who wouldn't have ever been in with a shout of winning the league in the modern era until the money came in.

I'm sure there's a lot of genuine City and Chelsea fans who had to live through barren periods and can't believe their luck. Fair play to them. It's the newcomers who piss me off because I know they'll be off if the clubs ever stop winning things. Instead of being angry at us, maybe those City fans should direct their anger at the glory hunting gits within their own fan base?

Just a thought
 
Just read all that s**** the $hity fans are saying on their stupid forum. At the moment I hate them more than Michael Gove, Gareth Malone and Paul Hollywood combined!
 
You're not wrong. But I still wouldn't be jealous of another club. I might curse our own luck, or slate the people in charge, but never want to swap places with others. We're Everton means a lot to me in this regard.
True. I just imagine us getting all of their money but we keep our inherent awesomeness and staggering beauty.

BTW hello Blue Moon ... my favourite part of your thread is you slate us for being delusional and then the rest of the thread is full of sweeping generalizations and tired stereotypes. Not to mention the bloke who predicts Martinez won't last the season. Oh and then someone says "this bloke got it right" -- about you Steken ... not sure if you should be proud or not ;) -- and then a few posts later someone says literally not a single Evertonian in this thread is reasonable (I guess he didn't bother reading their own thread ... or he doesn't agree that City is the right team to have won the lottery?).

I get why we look up (aspirational and all ... it's very common); no idea why they bother looking "down" so to speak. I don't stalk around Swansea, West Ham, Norwich sites wondering what they think of us. TBF probably because I know they love us because we're the best fans in the world ... even so.

City fans are probably just jealous of us because we beat them all the time on the pitch and GoT beats Blue Moon all the time in that best footy site poll. Oh and our new manager beat their 250 million pound team in a Cup Final with a team of pub players. Oh and our old manager now runs the team which prevented them from winning the title this year. So yeah I get why we wouldn't be their best mates.
 
I like City fans and have no problem with them. Their increased detestation of us is getting very tiring though. What a load of nobheads they are becoming.
 
I like City fans and have no problem with them. Their increased detestation of us is getting very tiring though. What a load of nobheads they are becoming.
agreed, I used to be able to relate to them, but there success has made them blind and deluded. If they aren't careful their support will become hated all over England.
 
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