Jealous of Chelsea or Man City

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Same here; from Cape Town and the "only" team supported in these parts are Manchester United. The day after Moyes was appointed, most of my colleagues and friends were talking about him like he had managed their team for the past 11 years.

Overnight he had gone from manager of plucky little Everton, to being the greatest manager in the history of football. They talked about his net spend, his free flowing football, dynamicism, interchangability of tactics, his power to motivate...they knew him they said...a great choice, they said...yep...he's a genius, you know?

Me; I just nodded, what did I know?

I've noticed on redcafe as well that they seem to think Moyes is better then Jose and that why they didn't offer Jose the job.
 
Man City will NEVER be a "big club" END OFF! Horrible little nothing club and buying the premership won't change that. I wouldn't call Chelsea a big club either as their gates before the prem were a joke. Sky would like to forget that football exist before 1993 and clubs be "big" without having loads of cash. I don't want Man City style cash, just enough to compete.

Of course they will be big clubs, do you think in 50 odd years when they'll have many more trophies than we have amassed people will think we're still bigger? We were known as the Mersey Millionaires and I'm sure many people where saying we were buying the league etc. We were founding members and a pivotal member of 'The Big 5' who got the wheels in motion for the game to become money obsessed by setting up the Premier League.
Terrible mismanagement at boardroom level has got us in the situation we are in today, a stadium that is crumbling whilst every other big club and even the likes of Newcaslte, Sunderland among other small clubs have all managed to either upgrade or build a new stadium.
You'll still find people who will back this board and let Kenwright hide behind his 'Greatest Evertonian' card whilst the man is a total fool and will put himself before Everton any day of the week and has done for his entire tenure.
 
If not when.
Since we last won a trophy Chelsea have won 3 league titles, 6 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, 1 European Cup, 1 Europa League, 1 Cup Winners Cup
Man City 1 League and 1 FA Cup and are now not far behind us on honours.

We have our class though I suppose.
 
Since we last won a trophy Chelsea have won 3 league titles, 6 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, 1 European Cup, 1 Europa League, 1 Cup Winners Cup
Man City 1 League and 1 FA Cup and are now not far behind us on honours.

We have our class though I suppose.

My puppy has doubled in size over the last weeks, therefore I predict that in 50 years time he will be roughly the size of europe.

Because, as we all know, all current trends will continue for ever.
 
My puppy has doubled in size over the last weeks, therefore I predict that in 50 years time he will be roughly the size of europe.

Because, as we all know, all current trends will continue for ever.

So you propose that we could get in front of these clubs in the foreseeable? New financial fair play rules have locked us in mediocrity (which Kenwright voted for). We have a board of directors who couldn't even built a shabby office block, 2 failed stadium moves among numerous other cock ups and it doesn't look like they're going anywhere. We're a million miles behind them now, it doesn't matter what happened in the 80s it is there here and now that matters and the fact is we're stuck in mediocrity and without a drastic change it won't be changing.
 
So you propose that we could get in front of these clubs in the foreseeable? New financial fair play rules have locked us in mediocrity (which Kenwright voted for). We have a board of directors who couldn't even built a shabby office block, 2 failed stadium moves among numerous other cock ups and it doesn't look like they're going anywhere. We're a million miles behind them now, it doesn't matter what happened in the 80s it is there here and now that matters and the fact is we're stuck in mediocrity and without a drastic change it won't be changing.

I think that if you can predict the footballing futures of three clubs over 50 years with absoloute certainty, you should take a fortune in the betting shops.

Things change. When City were in the third division ten years ago, you'd probably say with equal certainty that they'd never catch up to the big clubs again and they did. I remember when people thought the top 4 would never be broken and then liverpool collapsed.
 
I think that if you can predict the footballing futures of three clubs over 50 years with absoloute certainty, you should take a fortune in the betting shops.

Things change. When City were in the third division ten years ago, you'd probably say with equal certainty that they'd never catch up to the big clubs again and they did. I remember when people thought the top 4 would never be broken and then liverpool collapsed.
Liverpool's collapse coincided with City's rise. Also Man City got a new world class stadium, let's not pretend they were just plucked out at random. We have 'No Plan B' in regards to a stadium pretty much the only thing this board has been honest about. Then once bought Man City could buy and buy until they caught up and bypassed the rest. New rules now prevent major cash injections meaning we have to live by our own means and seeing as we don't have a brand new stadium and wont have for the forseeable future to bring in sufficient income to put us on a playing field with the teams above then we're stuck.
 
Not even slightly. I'd love investment for Everton to sign a boss player once every couple of years but not to the extent that it attracts the sort of bellends that now support City and Chelsea.

May I point you towards Mr @doyle_stylz as he perfect example.

Chelsea have always been supported by horrible bellends, jock, although I suppose there's a different type of bellend following them now as well. City's lot used to be kind of alright before the money.
 
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Just read more of that blue moon s***e, this is a fine comment I found:
'I use to think everton was a cracking old club, kinda like us, proper working class , but sadly they seem to have developed this hate which is very strange and there aint much you can do about it , so bollocks to em.'
 
Liverpool's collapse coincided with City's rise. Also Man City got a new world class stadium, let's not pretend they were just plucked out at random. We have 'No Plan B' in regards to a stadium pretty much the only thing this board has been honest about. Then once bought Man City could buy and buy until they caught up and bypassed the rest. New rules now prevent major cash injections meaning we have to live by our own means and seeing as we don't have a brand new stadium and wont have for the forseeable future to bring in sufficient income to put us on a playing field with the teams above then we're stuck.

That's not the point.

Fact is, ten years ago nobody would have said Man City would be Premier League champions in the near future. Things change.
 
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