James McCarthy

Big Fat Sam · April 18, 2019

ijjysmith said:
Sell both.

Add Besic, Baningame and Davies to that list, too.

Neiler · April 18, 2019

RichardP said:
I hope we offer him a 2-3 year contract with the assurance that if we get a good season out of him it will be extended and that if we don't then he can go.

I would be of a similar view point to be honest. When he is on point, he has much to contribute. Hoping to see him get game time in some of the remaining games.

Moomin · April 18, 2019

Sell him to Rangers.

Eggs · April 18, 2019

...thought it very odd when his last contract was renewed, thought it odd when Silva said he wanted to keep him this season. Injuries aren’t his fault but he hasn’t been fully fit for a very long time. From a playing perspective it would make no difference if he wasn’t here.

Neiler · April 18, 2019

Eggs said:
...thought it very odd when his last contract was renewed, thought it odd when Silva said he wanted to keep him this season. Injuries aren’t his fault but he hasn’t been fully fit for a very long time. From a playing perspective it would make no difference if he wasn’t here.

Im scrathing my head on this one and go back and forth.

In theory he should be a player that Silva likes, his engine and tenacity leads itself to Silvas pressing style, so on one hand i can understand why Silva may admire him

Then i think playing with a no 8 like Gomes and that level of creativity, Silva seems to like as well.

Then you have Morgan and Davies who have been picked at times ahead of him in the above absences, that has me questioning he may have physically recovered but might not be match fit and its hard to reintroduce a player during a bad spell in January and toward the end of the season who needs mins. he was sent home from the ROI squad because he wasn't match fit.

He may have been told to invest in Davies as a young player, or we have invested big in Morgan as an asset from a club perspective.

Maybe he just doesnt rate him, but his actions around keeping him in Jan suggest something different.

Its all speculative really, just my musings.

Sadly for Jamesy and for us in many ways in a business sense, with his contract situation i think he may have drawn the short straw, unless he can turn something around between now and the end of the season.

Eggs · April 18, 2019

Neiler said:
Im scrathing my head on this one and go back and forth.

In theory he should be a player that Silva likes, his engine and tenacity leads itself to Silvas pressing style, so on one hand i can understand why Silva may admire him

Then i think playing with a no 8 like Gomes and that level of creativity, Silva seems to like as well.

Then you have Morgan and Davies who have been picked at times ahead of him in the above absences, that has me questioning he may have physically recovered but might not be match fit and its hard to reintroduce a player during a bad spell in January and toward the end of the season who needs mins. he was sent home from the ROI squad because he wasn't match fit.

He may have been told to invest in Davies as a young player, or we have invested big in Morgan as an asset from a club perspective.

Maybe he just doesnt rate him, but his actions around keeping him in Jan suggest something different.

Its all speculative really, just my musings.

Sadly for Jamesy and for us in many ways in a business sense, with his contract situation i think he may have drawn the short straw, unless he can turn something around between now and the end of the season.

...the last injury was a dreadful one but before that he was playing with the handbrake on, protecting his hamstrings. When he let the handbrake off for two games, the hamstring popped in the Derby. That scar tissue will be permanently there, I can only think he hasn’t convinced Silva in training sessions.

Neiler · April 18, 2019

Eggs said:
...the last injury was a dreadful one but before that he was playing with the handbrake on, protecting his hamstrings. When he let the handbrake off for two games, the hamstring popped in the Derby. That scar tissue will be permanently there, I can only think he hasn’t convinced Silva in training sessions.

Its a hard one to know, without knowing the intimate details, on reflection i suspect at one stage he was so vital to us that we didnt manage his injuries very well, Ireland didnt help either - which is more to the point really awful for Jamesy. I rate him highly as a player, but whether he can truly ever recover from his injuries is something unknown and i suppose a broad concern. Im hoping for the lad and for us as a club he can. But his contract situation is on a knife edge.

From a purely Everton point of view, we have zero liability on him only wages, so even offering him a new contract, with terms and conditions hold little cost really. However if not it will tell us a lot about what the club feel his long term prospects are recovering from his injuries. If he is let loose in the summer or on a free next season we are looking at best a nominal fee for a player who was worth 16 odd million at the time of signing, which is bad news generally for the club, i know it clears a wage and regulates the squad, but at 28 he should be worth double what we paid, which would be all profit at this stage. So in essence everyone's a looser here really.

deipnosophist · April 18, 2019

Eggs said:
...thought it very odd when his last contract was renewed, thought it odd when Silva said he wanted to keep him this season. Injuries aren’t his fault but he hasn’t been fully fit for a very long time. From a playing perspective it would make no difference if he wasn’t here.

But Farhad said "James is part of the family"...

...which kind of sums up why Everton is a family club...but not a winning one...

gianthogweed · April 18, 2019

Can understand the manager not giving him game time if he breaks down again never get him out the door

hktoffee · April 18, 2019

sharkey1001 said:
Keep him, sell Schneiderlin

What’s the point?

Moomin · April 18, 2019

hktoffee said:
What’s the point?

If its to annoy you, I'm 100% behind keeping him.

havrey0123 · April 18, 2019

Highly doubtful he will be offered a new deal
1 year left on his deal, may well be looking at a Ashley williams scenario. Loaned out for his last year and the released on a free.

Caolam · April 18, 2019

Mc Carthy has become a conundrum for Everton. There is no doubt he can play football and do so in a good pressing team. However the trouble he had with his hamstrings before his last injury put a question mark on his ability to compete. He has been back for quite a while and we haven't seen him. If he is still behind Gana, Snids and Davies then it is hard to see why he is needed. However, not having played, his value in any transfer would be limited. I think I would be looking to play him to see where he is at. If Silva is convinced he has no future at the club then it would be best to release him, he could get games and it would free up his wage.

havrey0123 · April 18, 2019

Caolam said:
Mc Carthy has become a conundrum for Everton. There is no doubt he can play football and do so in a good pressing team. However the trouble he had with his hamstrings before his last injury put a question mark on his ability to compete. He has been back for quite a while and we haven't seen him. If he is still behind Gana, Snids and Davies then it is hard to see why he is needed. However, not having played, his value in any transfer would be limited. I think I would be looking to play him to see where he is at. If Silva is convinced he has no future at the club then it would be best to release him, he could get games and it would free up his wage.

Who is going to buy him when he hasn't played in 2 years
It's likely to be a loan move so teams can assess him

ijjysmith · April 18, 2019

Caolam said:
Mc Carthy has become a conundrum for Everton. There is no doubt he can play football and do so in a good pressing team. However the trouble he had with his hamstrings before his last injury put a question mark on his ability to compete. He has been back for quite a while and we haven't seen him. If he is still behind Gana, Snids and Davies then it is hard to see why he is needed. However, not having played, his value in any transfer would be limited. I think I would be looking to play him to see where he is at. If Silva is convinced he has no future at the club then it would be best to release him, he could get games and it would free up his wage.

He really hasn’t.