Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[tsubaki]

Ok tell me. My understanding is that it's calling for 1 state a Palestinian state from the river jordan to the Mediterranean. So no Israel.

FWIW at least one senior Israeli government minister is on record several times as calling for a Greater Israel that includes all of Lebanon, Jordan and Syria as well as parts of Saudi, Egypt and Turkey.

 

[Zatara]

Actually the Arab Israelis suffer from every day racism is Israel where they get arbitrary police stops and less funding for their communities then Jewish ones do.

And if your bulletproof on the racism think your even more stupid and racist then I have you credit for

What a pathetic laughable clown you are

You appear to be someone that has limited experience of travel, business or politics in other nations.

Just like most of the terror supporters.

 

[Tipp blue]

Because you conveniently miss out 'Palestine will be free'

This from a 2021 (before it was the saying was weaponised by both parties) Jewish publication https://jewishcurrents.org/what-does-from-the-river-to-the-sea-really-mean


If we are all honest, could you blame the Palestinians from wanting their land back?If it was your house that somebody forcibly moved into, beat you, your wife and kids up constantly and then took more rooms and didn't even let you out of your bedroom , you'd be peeved I am sure.

It's far more complicated than this.. why do you call it Palestinian land? It was home of the Jewish religion for thousands of years before any Arab or Muslim populations came to the area.
How far back on history can we go?

 

[Toffeeslam]

You appear to be someone that has limited experience of travel, business or politics in other nations.

Just like most of the terror supporters.

not a supporter of terrorism and have been and spoken to people in that region plenty more than you have due to marriage.

So don’t start with your condescending clap trap because you haven’t got a argument here.

Now being an avid racist, genocide and apartheid apologist haven’t you got a KKK meeting you should be chairing ?

 

[Tipp blue]

not a supporter of terrorism and have been and spoken to people in that region plenty more than you have due to marriage.

So don’t start with your condescending clap trap because you haven’t got a argument here.

Now being an avid racist, genocide and apartheid apologist haven’t you got a KKK meeting you should be chairing ?

Is Genocide the right word? Palestine has been one of the fastest growing populations in the world.. kind of the opposite of genocide.. Isreal would have the ability to commit genocide but there has been no genocide or the population wouldn't have grown..

 

[Zatara]

not a supporter of terrorism and have been and spoken to people in that region plenty more than you have due to marriage.

So don’t start with your condescending clap trap because you haven’t got a argument here.

Now being an avid racist, genocide and apartheid apologist haven’t you got a KKK meeting you should be chairing ?

You are being very aggressive and rude.

Do you not support rainbow laces? Why do you support an anti-life group of people?

Its very hateful.

 

[Rita_Poon]

You appear to be someone that has limited experience of travel, business or politics in other nations.

henry kissinger coming through...

 

[Toffeeslam]

You are being very aggressive and rude.

Do you not support rainbow laces? Why do you support an anti-life group of people?

Its very hateful.

I don’t like ignorant bigots like you

Don’t talk to me about pro life and rainbow laces whilst you turn a blind eye to what’s happening to the Palestinians…

Turns out I can add hypocrite to your litany of traits

 

[Toffeeslam]

Is Genocide the right word? Palestine has been one of the fastest growing populations in the world.. kind of the opposite of genocide.. Isreal would have the ability to commit genocide but there has been no genocide or the population wouldn't have grown..

If you look and listen to what the Israelis are saying themselves it’s genocide, using starvation as a weapon of war is genocide

The point of this war now is not about hostages but to resettle Gaza and in fact in Israel Likud the ruling party are selling plots of land to do just that.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

It's far more complicated than this.. why do you call it Palestinian land? It was home of the Jewish religion for thousands of years before any Arab or Muslim populations came to the area.
How far back on history can we go?

Are you for real?? Jesus christ!!

It has been Palestine for millennia - the Romans talked of Palestine!! The arabs lived there WITH the jews ffs.

If someone came to your house beat you up and took over cos their great great great x 100 grandad lived there (so did yours) you'd be OK with that??!!


You've listened to too much zionist lies, mate.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

You appear to be someone that has limited experience of travel, business or politics in other nations.

Just like most of the terror supporters.

The racist snitch returns

 

[Blue 1]

Is Genocide the right word? Palestine has been one of the fastest growing populations in the world.. kind of the opposite of genocide.. Isreal would have the ability to commit genocide but there has been no genocide or the population wouldn't have grown..

Prior to October 7th 2023 it wasn't the correct term.

It is now with regard to Gaza.

From the US Holocaust Memorial Museum:

"The legal term “genocide” refers to certain acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. Genocide is an international crime, according to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948). The acts that constitute genocide fall into five categories:

Killing members of the group

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction, in whole or in part

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

Although the term “genocide” is often used, its commission is rare when compared to other serious crimes that are not defined by an intent to destroy a targeted group, such as crimes against humanity and war crimes."

Israel's actions in Gaza meet the first three criteria. It would be necessary to prove intent, which I'm sure Israeli leaders would deny.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

You appear to be someone that has limited experience of travel, business or politics in other nations.

Just like most of the terror supporters.

He is telling the truth

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Prior to October 7th 2023 it wasn't the correct term.

It is now.

That is not entirely true - there were many elements of the occupation pre 2023 that fell under the broad term 'genocide'

Highlighted in bold below particularly:

Raphael Lemkin, who first coined the term, defined genocide as "the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group" by means such as "the disintegration of [its] political and social institutions, of [its] culture, language, national feelings, religion, and [its] economic existence" During the struggle to ratify the Genocide Convention, powerful countries restricted Lemkin's definition to exclude their own actions from being classified as genocide, ultimately limiting it to any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".

Genocide has occurred throughout human history, even during prehistoric times, but is particularly likely in situations of imperial expansion and power consolidation. Therefore, it is associated with colonial empires and settler colonies, as well as with both world wars and repressive governments in the twentieth century. The colloquial understanding of genocide is heavily influenced by the Holocaust as its archetype and is conceived as innocent victims targeted for their ethnic identity rather than for any political reason. Genocide is widely considered to be the epitome of human evil and often referred to as the "crime of crimes"; consequently, events are often denounced as genocide.

 

[Blue 1]

That is not entirely true - there were many elements of the occupation pre 2023 that fell under the broad term 'genocide'

Highlighted in bold below particularly:

Raphael Lemkin, who first coined the term, defined genocide as "the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group" by means such as "the disintegration of [its] political and social institutions, of [its] culture, language, national feelings, religion, and [its] economic existence" During the struggle to ratify the Genocide Convention, powerful countries restricted Lemkin's definition to exclude their own actions from being classified as genocide, ultimately limiting it to any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".

Genocide has occurred throughout human history, even during prehistoric times, but is particularly likely in situations of imperial expansion and power consolidation. Therefore, it is associated with colonial empires and settler colonies, as well as with both world wars and repressive governments in the twentieth century. The colloquial understanding of genocide is heavily influenced by the Holocaust as its archetype and is conceived as innocent victims targeted for their ethnic identity rather than for any political reason. Genocide is widely considered to be the epitome of human evil and often referred to as the "crime of crimes"; consequently, events are often denounced as genocide.

Fair, they have been trying to erase Palestinan cultural identity for years.

I was working with the internationally defined criteria, but as your article points out, those criteria are somewhat shaped in order to exonerate Western colonial powers.