Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state
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Bishop Thumpety-Thump
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Someone needs to stop reading the Herald Sun (or feral scum as it’s also more accurately known).
For the non-Aussies, that’s our version of the Daily Mail, and it’s inexplicably popular with some British migrants. It has a particularly odious commentator named Andrew Bolt, yesterday’s opinion piece parroted the Israel is a victim bollocks.
For the non-Aussies, that’s our version of the Daily Mail, and it’s inexplicably popular with some British migrants. It has a particularly odious commentator named Andrew Bolt, yesterday’s opinion piece parroted the Israel is a victim bollocks.
tsubaki
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Perhaps the most spot on thing I have read about this issue in ages:
amp.theguardian.com
The mainstream media has failed us after 7 October | Israel-Gaza war | The Guardian
Not only did they mostly ignore Israel’s denial of Palestinian freedom, but also the contradictions in Israel’s military strategy
From following this thread, it's pretty clear he holds a deep disdain for Arabs.
What a way to totally oversimplify a very complex situation. Israel's medical system have been reported to have treated Palestinians in need (pre Oct 7th), and certain programs have existed where Palestinian children have been treated in Israeli hospitals in very specific circumstances, don't act like every child had the option to go over and receive treatment in Israel.
tsubaki
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As has been said many times, the protests against the war are not anti-Semitic; there is (in London at least) a large Jewish bloc present at all the marches and as the definition of AS says conflating Israel and Jews (as the critics of the matches do consistently) is antisemitism itself.
So many people (bigots) seem to think they are Pro Israel when in fact they are anti-muslim.
If Israel were laying waste to cities in Europe there would be a very different reaction.
Can’t help but think that the impending Israeli response against Iran will be a muted affair.
If you look at Irans strike against Israel. Telegraphed ahead of time so civvies could get to shelters. No mass casualties, limited damage to a few military airfields. Makes me think that there’s a working back-channel between Israel and Iran. If that’s the case then I would expect to see a toned-down response from Israel.
I really hope so. There no intermediate responses here. They either go big or they go small. If they go big then the whole place is going up. If they go small - IRGC sites and a few AD sites may get smoked.
I’m hoping for the latter, but we’ll find out soon enough.
If you look at Irans strike against Israel. Telegraphed ahead of time so civvies could get to shelters. No mass casualties, limited damage to a few military airfields. Makes me think that there’s a working back-channel between Israel and Iran. If that’s the case then I would expect to see a toned-down response from Israel.
I really hope so. There no intermediate responses here. They either go big or they go small. If they go big then the whole place is going up. If they go small - IRGC sites and a few AD sites may get smoked.
I’m hoping for the latter, but we’ll find out soon enough.
Quoting Bari Weiss who has a clear and distinct bias? hahaha
Historically, protests against government actions in various countries haven't been seen as signs of societal collapse, but in the case of the Israel-Palestine conflict, they are often portrayed that way, mainly because people don't like seeing brown people on their streets protesting against genocide.
Spadge Vernacular
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A potential strategic goal for Israel could be in weakening the Iranian axis of influence by isolating groups like Hezbollah, as they have to a certain degree with Hamas, from Iranian support. If Israel can successfully demonstrate to these groups that they are vulnerable and cannot fully rely on Iran, it could indeed be seen as a significant strategic victory. What would follow could be problematic and would require significant military, political, and diplomatic actions but nonetheless, I’m sure Israel would see the breakup of Iran’s axis as a win. The Saudi's might have a view re the Houthis too.
I can’t see them breaking the Iran - Hez link. They can bomb their leadership, disrupt their weapons and supply lines, intercept their comms, but it’s like whack-a-mole.
They just keep popping up and so the killing goes on. A ceasefire and withdrawal from Gaza and Lebanon are the only things imo that are going to calm this thing down. As for what comes next I have no idea.
coollino
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yeah the giddiness of calling people anti-sematic is very weird. most people would hope never to call someone racist
I don't really see what the point of your post was. Lest we forget I assume is in reference to the holocaust, which is a pretty poor point to make here as firstly I don't think you'll find anybody downplaying that horrific stain on human history and secondly thousands of children are being killed by the state of Israel. Wouldn't the lest we forget be best aimed elsewhere?
tsubaki
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The reaction to these marches has been one of the most perverse things the last government did - senior ministers were openly lying to the public and demanding force be used against entirely peaceful marches. Clowns like Jenrick are still banging this drum, too.
A good listen. An Israeli perspective on what's gone wrong there, particularly with regard to the deteriorating situation in the West Bank and the rise of scum like Ben-Gvir and Smotrich. A good summary of Israeli history post 1967, too.
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