Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Yep, this isn't going to work out as the spectacular victory Hamas envisiged.

Knobheads. On each side.
It depends on how you measure 'victory', the Israelis measure it in land grabs and the murders of Palestinian children and women. My understanding is the Palestinians measure it by continued resistance despite the war crimes and horrors of illegal occupation (as deemed by the UN and other agencies) they continue to live under.
There is an absolutely huge irony of the way Israel 'deals' with'the Palestinian' problem, not just by rhetoric but by daily action.
 
Yes, the right to defend it's illegal occupied territories.
How very dare he say that.
I don't blame them for fighting back, everyone would in their place, but slaughtering civilians on the streets, desecrating bodies, lynching prisoners etc... is not gonna buy them public sympathy.

Even people who sympathize with them and their cause can't publicly defend them when those kind of images come in force. They will never beat powerful pro-Israeli propaganda (in the West) but they don't need to give them tools.
 
It depends on how you measure 'victory', the Israelis measure it in land grabs and the murders of Palestinian children and women. My understanding is the Palestinians measure it by continued resistance despite the war crimes and horrors of illegal occupation (as deemed by the UN and other agencies) they continue to live under.
There is an absolutely huge irony of the way Israel 'deals' with'the Palestinian' problem, not just by rhetoric but by daily action.
You're right with every word.

However, this show of resistance will lead to more devestation than they could have imagined. Iran needs to tread very carefully too, carry on celebrating the 'victory' and it's population comes into the firing line.

The rich Gulf neighbours will turn and blind eye, as usual, Lebanon will forget it's own broken country for a while and shake their fists but that's about it.

Israel shouting about crimes and acts of war is clearly lacking self awareness, but they don't really care. Neither do other governments judging by the response so far.
 
You're right with every word.

However, this show of resistance will lead to more devestation than they could have imagined. Iran needs to tread very carefully too, carry on celebrating the 'victory' and it's population comes into the firing line.

The rich Gulf neighbours will turn and blind eye, as usual, Lebanon will forget it's own broken country for a while and shake their fists but that's about it.

Israel shouting about crimes and acts of war is clearly lacking self awareness, but they don't really care. Neither do other governments judging by the response so far.
They will not attack Iran directly (or vice versa) but you can expect some "mysterious explosion" or assassination soon over there. In same way Iran fund and train Hamas and other such organizations in Syria and Lebanon to attack Israel. Its classic proxy war.
 
Defending Israel is a horrible position for Kier Starmer to be taking. Honestly has me questioning supporting Labour but then I see the alternative in the rancid Tories and I cry at the political system in the UK.

If I didn't live in such a tightly contested area, I wouldn't vote labour, but unfortunately I have to
 
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