Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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That is traditionally Israeli territory. Judea of course to give it it's proper/traditional title.
Judea and Samaria.

Only the Israeli hard right consider this Israeli territory and refer to it by that name.

Jews lived there millennia ago, and in smaller numbers until about the 1920s IIRC, in Hebron. That doesn't make it "traditional Israeli territory", as the State of Israel didn't exist before 1948.


I would actually like Jews to be able to live there in a future Palestinian state. Bit idealistic, I realise.
 
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Judea and Samaria.

Only the Israeli hard right consider this Israeli territory and refer to it by that name.

Jews lived there millennia ago, and in smaller numbers until about the 1920s IIRC, in Hebron. That doesn't make it "traditional Israeli territory", as the State of Israel didn't exist before 1948.


I would actually like Jews to be able to live there in a future Palestinian state. Bit idealistic, I realise.
Traditional Jewish territory then we won't split hairs too much! I do think an Israeli presence is still required in West Bank for security reasons.
 
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The Israelis have not made land concessions, they have taken more and more since 1948

You clearly know very little about the history. Seriously, if you are going to side with a fascist genocidal regime you should at least learn the history.
I think genocidal regime applies to Hamas as well. The only solution they want is the extermination of all Jews and the ultimate destruction of Israel.
 
Is there not already a two state solution in place? Some Israelis do consider West Bank as their territory as well after all.

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing but considering what happened with Gaza i see no point in making anymore land concessions with these people.

History has shown that when that happens it always seems to backfire on Israel with disastrous results.
Porky Corky, for a matter of interest, given you're so against radical islamists, would you be happy for Israel to wipe the Palestinians clean from that land? Given that you think it's historically there's and all.
 
@Zatara They're fine, thanks for asking. They're my dad's friends. They live in Jericho, not Gaza. They've no interest in killing Israelis. They're.just regular people, not foaming at the mouth jihadists. I have Israeli friends as well. Some people, sadly the seeming minority, are interested in fomenting peace, believe it or not 😱

I'm sure many if not most Israeli's would welcome peace, a real peace.

But that is a pipe dream when their neighbours want death above all else.
 
I'm sure many if not most Israeli's would welcome peace, a real peace.

But that is a pipe dream when their neighbours want death above all else.
Mate which side has CONSERVATIVELY killed 40,000 civilians? Have you seen the pictures of headless children from bombs? The dead world kitchen aid workers? 100s of dead journalists?? Are you sick in the head like?
 
You must like making stuff up to justify your stance because I did not say that at all.
Try reading what people say instead of throwing baseless claims
You, the Israeli apartheid government and the IDF are good bedfellows alright

You see the title of the thread and post the word 'apartheid'. Now look at the Israeli multicultural society.

Then look at Palestine murdering gays.

One is good and the other is evil. Which is which?

ISIS was by far a stronger and higher threat level than Hamas. I guess it only counts to you if Israel are under threat yea?

A defeated Hamas will lead to a Palestinian authority that want a two state solution and an Israeli fascist regime that wants nothing of the sort. It suits Netenyahu and Co to have remnants and the continuation of hamas in some form.
And it turns out carpet bombing children increased sympathy for hamas among Palestinians, including those that were booted out of Israel and lost their jobs for something they had nothing to do with. Something hamas wanted.

If you think Israel are doing this the right way then you know nothing about the history of terrorism and its use against over whelming military strength.

I bet you'd have been in the town square shouting about threats to the world and promoting the rights of those few to subjugate the many during the French revolution, which brought modern democracy through the use of 'terrorism'
If Palestinians were able to line up in a spiffy war with the Israeli army they probably would have.
Answer me this: do you think their should be a two state solution?

Hamas are under Iran as are Hezbollah and many other splinter groups as well.

Youre not only talking about Hamas, its Iran and all the others combined.

Its not ISIS, it dwarves ISIS

I made a little something on an AI software program. Anyone who supports Israel can use it as a screen background if they do so wish.

Considering it's AI forgive the mistakes but i wanted to create a customised Everton/Israel banner.

View attachment 273023

Suggest sending that to Idan Tal ;)

Now do one for Russia

Russia & Hamas

Or Ukraine & Israel

Lets have it right...
 
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