Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Ruairi77]

Went to see Sammy Obeid last night.
He's a Palestinian American stand up comedian.
Very funny, well versed and accurate take on the whole situation.
Check him out on Youtube or Netflix.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Loving all this talk of ICC issuing arrest warrants. A long way to go yet, but positive signs.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Can’t be true… can it….?

 

[tsubaki]

Can’t be true… can it….?

IIRC they did that when the ICC was considering charging US leaders over Iraq and Afghanistan , so it’s not unprecedented.

Meanwhile Netanyahu is doing his level best to disrupt negotiations again by insisting they’ll go into Rafah regardless, something that should really be added to the list of charges.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

IIRC they did that when the ICC was considering charging US leaders over Iraq and Afghanistan , so it’s not unprecedented.

Meanwhile Netanyahu is doing his level best to disrupt negotiations again by insisting they’ll go into Rafah regardless, something that should really be added to the list of charges.

Can the US really do this? (Don't answer that). It is ludicrous that this can happen and makes, basically, everything on the planet, sh1t

 

[Ruairi77]

Fairly confident I know who runs this account which has 20k followers.
I don't believe he should be using the clubs name to tweet this stuff.

 

[tsubaki]

Fairly confident I know who runs this account which has 20k followers.
I don't believe he should be using the clubs name to tweet this stuff.

“all together now”

 

[Martin Alvito]

Can the US really do this? (Don't answer that). It is ludicrous that this can happen and makes, basically, everything on the planet, sh1t

US Sanctions on the International Criminal Court

On September 2, 2020, the United States government imposed sanctions on the International Criminal Court (ICC) prosecutor, Fatou Bensouda, and another senior prosecution official, Phakiso Mochochoko. In addition, US Secretary of State Michael Pompeo announced that the United States had...

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Deep dive on the subject. A president can do it unilaterally, but the bipartisan votes are there and members of Congress will want to be on record, so it would happen through an Act of Congress.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

US Sanctions on the International Criminal Court

On September 2, 2020, the United States government imposed sanctions on the International Criminal Court (ICC) prosecutor, Fatou Bensouda, and another senior prosecution official, Phakiso Mochochoko. In addition, US Secretary of State Michael Pompeo announced that the United States had...

www.hrw.org

Deep dive on the subject. A president can do it unilaterally, but the bipartisan votes are there and members of Congress will want to be on record, so it would happen through an Act of Congress.

I am struggling to get my head around it. The USA WILL impose sanctions on the ICC if it issues warrants against known genocidal maniacs?!

 

[Martin Alvito]

I am struggling to get my head around it. The USA WILL impose sanctions on the ICC if it issues warrants against known genocidal maniacs?!

The propaganda arms on both sides agree on very little, but most of them do agree that Israel good, Palestine bad. Most Americans don't know enough to question the judgment, or even understand that one has been made for them.

So, yes, I think there's enough votes in both houses of Congress to override a Biden veto, and I doubt he would. Biden is both a staunch Israel ally and a skeptic of bodies like the ICC. He'll use the latter when it's convenient, and marginalize it when it's not, which more or less sums up US policy towards it since its founding.

 

[Yarrgh]

Can’t be true… can it….?

Wowzer!

Who are the good guys again? I don't see any anymore.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

The propaganda arms on both sides agree on very little, but most of them do agree that Israel good, Palestine bad. Most Americans don't know enough to question the judgment, or even understand that one has been made for them.

So, yes, I think there's enough votes in both houses of Congress to override a Biden veto, and I doubt he would. Biden is both a staunch Israel ally and a skeptic of bodies like the ICC. He'll use the latter when it's convenient, and marginalize it when it's not, which more or less sums up US policy towards it since its founding.

Wowzer!

Who are the good guys again? I don't see any anymore.

This has really rocked me. I thought it was D-day for the Israeli establishment, but apparently not.

What a world we live in

 

[GoldenToffee]

I, probably like many people, didn't have an in-depth knowledge of the Israel-Palestine history and conflict prior to what happened in October.

And I certainly had no idea whatsoever and continue to be blown away by just how steadfast the US is in its blind support of Israel in spite of all the evidence of what's going on.

(I won't comment on how sickened I am at our own government's and opposition'lack of action on Israel)

The US has turned on its own citizens for having the audacity to leverage their right of free speech. Young people have been manhandled and assaulted by police for supporting Palestine - not Hamas.

The US has seen handfuls of its OWN citizens, be them those kidnapped by Hamas or mostly aid workers, killed by bombs provided by the US in Palestine!

This war would end tomorrow if the US wanted it to.

Then you see the likes of Trump throwing his weight behind the police's unjust treatment of the students and staff protesting at the country's most esteemed learning institutions.

It's all absolutely sick. Israel could go into Rafah tomorrow and gun down half a million people in cold blood and the US would still be being 'concerned at what they are seeing' and 'waiting for the IDF to provide a results if it's investigation as to what happened'.

How does Israel control the UK, US and majority of European governments?

 

[SundayMondayMagayeGueye]

It's the constant conflation of antisemitism and Anti-Zionism that gets me (sometimes ignorance but more often than not deliberate).

 

[SundayMondayMagayeGueye]

I, probably like many people, didn't have an in-depth knowledge of the Israel-Palestine history and conflict prior to what happened in October.

And I certainly had no idea whatsoever and continue to be blown away by just how steadfast the US is in its blind support of Israel in spite of all the evidence of what's going on.

(I won't comment on how sickened I am at our own government's and opposition'lack of action on Israel)

The US has turned on its own citizens for having the audacity to leverage their right of free speech. Young people have been manhandled and assaulted by police for supporting Palestine - not Hamas.

The US has seen handfuls of its OWN citizens, be them those kidnapped by Hamas or mostly aid workers, killed by bombs provided by the US in Palestine!

This war would end tomorrow if the US wanted it to.

Then you see the likes of Trump throwing his weight behind the police's unjust treatment of the students and staff protesting at the country's most esteemed learning institutions.

It's all absolutely sick. Israel could go into Rafah tomorrow and gun down half a million people in cold blood and the US would still be being 'concerned at what they are seeing' and 'waiting for the IDF to provide a results if it's investigation as to what happened'.

How does Israel control the UK, US and majority of European governments?

Most congressmen are 'bought' in the US by lobby money. Those that refuse are 'discarded' and a replacement lackey steps in.

The majority of our tory government and a lot of Labour mps are also bought.

Probably one of several reasons that South Africa was able to take Israel to the ICJ, none of their politicians have been 'got to'...yet.