Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[tsubaki]

I think the Russians and Israelis bought the same propaganda handbook on Amazon

It should here be pointed out that the Israeli government never take action against Russia, whether that is over Ukraine or incidents involving the allies that they are loudly demand help them now.

Russia invading Ukraine led to no sanctions, no military aid to Ukraine. The poisoning in Salisbury led to no sanctions, no expulsion of diplomats. The shoot-down of MH17 and the deaths of hundreds of Europeans led to nothing from Jerusalem.

This "alliance" that the political class who run this poor country of ours insist exists is all one way. We support them, they do not support us.

 

[Rita_Poon]

It should here be pointed out that the Israeli government never take action against Russia, whether that is over Ukraine or incidents involving the allies that they are loudly demand help them now.

Russia invading Ukraine led to no sanctions, no military aid to Ukraine. The poisoning in Salisbury led to no sanctions, no expulsion of diplomats. The shoot-down of MH17 and the deaths of hundreds of Europeans led to nothing from Jerusalem.

This "alliance" that the political class who run this poor country of ours insist exists is all one way. We support them, they do not support us.

annexation of Crimea
boris on a secret jolly to berlusconi's shag pad accompanied by a kgb agent
numerous former wealthy russian persons meeting untimely ends in the uk
forcing a jet off course to apprehend a journalist

I think there's more.

 

[Leylo]

Bloody ell can't get involved in this we've only got 2 water guns left and sunack just made a peg gun...

 

[Cork Evertonian]

It should here be pointed out that the Israeli government never take action against Russia, whether that is over Ukraine or incidents involving the allies that they are loudly demand help them now.

Russia invading Ukraine led to no sanctions, no military aid to Ukraine. The poisoning in Salisbury led to no sanctions, no expulsion of diplomats. The shoot-down of MH17 and the deaths of hundreds of Europeans led to nothing from Jerusalem.

This "alliance" that the political class who run this poor country of ours insist exists is all one way. We support them, they do not support us.

Very true another reason why Israel needs a new pm. Netanyahu was the man in charge for most of the past 15 years in Israel. He's a friend of Putin after all.

 

[tsubaki]

The current state of affairs is that all drones and missiles are now either shot down or crashed, no deaths and between one or eight injuries. Biden has apparently said to Netanyahu that the US will not help with any attack on Iran.

So now the world waits to see if Netanyahu will leave it at that, or do something absolutely stupid.

 

[Blue 1]

Very true another reason why Israel needs a new pm. Netanyahu was the man in charge for most of the past 15 years in Israel. He's a friend of Putin after all.

The problems with Netanyahu go back way more than 15 years. More like 30.

No single individual has done more to thwart any hope of peace in the region.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

The problems with Netanyahu go back way more than 15 years. More like 30.

No single individual has done more to thwart any hope of peace in the region.

Well the folks at Hamas are not exactly helping matters, but with regards to the Israeli side of things then yes he is a problem.

 

[PhilM]

The current state of affairs is that all drones and missiles are now either shot down or crashed, no deaths and between one or eight injuries. Biden has apparently said to Netanyahu that the US will not help with any attack on Iran.

So now the world waits to see if Netanyahu will leave it at that, or do something absolutely stupid.

Now, we have to ask if both Israel and Iran leave it there, which for everyone's sakes I hope they do. Firstly, did Iran launch the attack expecting success?

If we're talking about brinkmanship, we could say that within Iran they could now say, "We've attacked Israel directly," perhaps knowing there'd be little success.

It meets their criteria of a direct response, but knowing Israel have suffered little to no casualties. If there's escalation now, it comes from Netanyahu and Co.

Israel hit Damascus, Iran have responded, and now they're equal with very little in form of wider damage on both sides. Could they both now say they're equal?

My worry is that the nutjob will only now respond harder, and that's when the toe-to-toe shooting war could begin.

 

[tsubaki]

The problems with Netanyahu go back way more than 15 years. More like 30.

No single individual has done more to thwart any hope of peace in the region.

100%. If anyone doesn’t already think this, I urge them to go and watch the clip from 2002 of him talking to the US Congress committee about regime change.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Iran's attack is a fantastic excuse for the US to send billions more in weapons to kill more Palestinians. I bet they can't believe their luck, countries bending over backwards to help them - no wonder they display such an attitude of arrogance in the face of any threats from foreign leaders.

 

[Tipp blue]

Now, we have to ask if both Israel and Iran leave it there, which for everyone's sakes I hope they do. Firstly, did Iran launch the attack expecting success?

If we're talking about brinkmanship, we could say that within Iran they could now say, "We've attacked Israel directly," perhaps knowing there'd be little success.

It meets their criteria of a direct response, but knowing Israel have suffered little to no casualties. If there's escalation now, it comes from Netanyahu and Co.

Israel hit Damascus, Iran have responded, and now they're equal with very little in form of wider damage on both sides. Could they both now say they're equal?

My worry is that the nutjob will only now respond harder, and that's when the toe-to-toe shooting war could begin.

Iran has said they see the matter as closed, Isreal should do the same.. Iran lashed over 300 weapons between drones and missiles at Isreal and it would seem that everything was shot down, Isreal has proven to those around it that it can't be easly attacked, as Biden has said "take that as a win Isreal"

 

[Blue 1]

Well the folks at Hamas are not exactly helping matters, but with regards to the Israeli side of things then yes he is a problem.

Netanyahu helped foment Hamas. He thought it would be a good idea to have the Palestinians at war with each other.

He oversaw the biggest expansions in settler numbers during his reigns.

He tacitly encouraged the assassination of Rabin post-Oslo.

No other individual, Israeli or Palestinian, has that ignominious record.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Netanyahu helped foment Hamas. He thought it would be a good idea to have the Palestinians at war with each other.

As far as i'm aware Hamas have been around and waging war on Israel, long before Netanyahu came into power.

 

[PhilM]

Iran has said they see the matter as closed, Isreal should do the same.. Iran lashed over 300 weapons between drones and missiles at Isreal and it would seem that everything was shot down, Isreal has proven to those around it that it can't be easly attacked, as Biden has said "take that as a win Isreal"

They definitely should do, as I was alluding to before. What they should do, however, and how they respond may not be one and the same. From the BBC:

The question now is about a possible Israeli reaction.Israeli authorities have vowed to retaliate to any direct attack from Iran, and the country’s war cabinet met overnight to discuss the situation.

Iran,meanwhile, has warned of a severe response.

How and where Israel responds could shape a trajectory that nobody wants. Whether they will admit it or not, Israel focusing on Iran will cause them headaches.

They can't fully focus on Gaza if they're worrying about Iran. The withdrawal of troops could be to help negotiations, or maybe they need them to be prepared.

Iran will not want a direct confrontation with Israel, hence why their typical approach is through proxies. Last night's attack could be seen in different lights.

They've sent a mass strike against Israel, but it failed pretty miserably. I personally suspect that's intentional, but it does bring in questions of their capabilities.

If Israel does attack directly, Iran will have to step it up a notch, and nobody wants that. But sadly, I can't see Netanyahu letting this lie for his own power base.

I mentioned the other day, when they are planning any action they will always consider what response they may face and if they can counter it.

Hopefully, this means the retaliation with be measured, while sadly satisfying the hardline nutcases in the region.

 

[Blue 1]

As far as i'm aware Hamas have been around and waging war on Israel, long before Netanyahu came into power.

Hamas were formed in 1987. Netanyahu has been involved in Israeli politics since 1984. He first came to lead in 1996.