Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Noisy noise annoys]

The Israeli government supporting far right have cornered the market in irony - no one is more antisemitic than they, no one disrespects the war dead more than them.

So true

 

[Blue 1]

In London today for a family do. My brothers were worrying about the presence of Yaxley and his cretins. I said they'd do bugger all except fight each other once the gak and Stella ran out. Must say, it's happened sooner than I expected. Must be the cost of living crisis.

 

[Calvin]

Think it’s time Israel was treated like the Pariah state that it is. Trade sanctions, banned from all sporting events, their money in international markets seized etc.
Obviously not going to happen. I wonder why not?

 

[tsubaki]

Yep hence why he’s fled the scene in a cab, his supporters believe the rhetoric the little goblin spouts so go on the defensive anytime he gets done. Prime example being his ‘expose’ on the grooming gangs then it came out that several of his crew were paedos themselves but that’s a completely different thing according to the Tommy lovers

No doubt off to spend his donors money on a worthy cause.

 

[Tipp blue]

Whilst I applaud your honesty I’m still absolutely baffled how any one can be pro- isrsel given their treatment of the people of Palestine. What have they done to make you like what they do??

Isreal has multiple times offered the 2 state solution and it's been turned down every time, with an answer along the lines of, no peace with Isreal, Isreal doesn't exist and war will continue until Isreal is no more..
So yes I have had sympathy for Isreal who are the only side who have made efforts to have a peace.. I have felt that the occupation is a result of the lack of intrest in peace coming from the other side. Were these offers of a 2 state solution legitimate we'll never know because it was always met with aggression from Palistine.
That's why I have been pro Isreal.. now it's changing as a result of this period of war.

 

[tsubaki]

Think it’s time Israel was treated like the Pariah state that it is. Trade sanctions, banned from all sporting events, their money in international markets seized etc.
Obviously not going to happen. I wonder why not?

I think there’s a greater possibility of that happening than at any time in history. The rest of the EU (except Scholz and Orban) will be on the ceasefire policy soon, as will we. The US won’t be far behind once Biden makes a public request which is rejected.

The noises coming out of the Islamic summit are (so far anyway) eminently reasonable too (Iran called for a ban on Israeli overflights and not allowing the US to ship munitions from or via bases in the region to Israel).

If Netanyahu refuses to back down when told to stop, I can see a global boycott happening.

 

[tsubaki]

Isreal has multiple times offered the 2 state solution and it's been turned down every time, with an answer along the lines of, no peace with Isreal, Isreal doesn't exist and war will continue until Isreal is no more..
So yes I have had sympathy for Isreal who are the only side who have made efforts to have a peace.. I have felt that the occupation is a result of the lack of intrest in peace coming from the other side. Were these offers of a 2 state solution legitimate we'll never know because it was always met with aggression from Palistine.
That's why I have been pro Isreal.. now it's changing as a result of this period of war.

It hasn’t

 

[Calvin]

I think there’s a greater possibility of that happening than at any time in history. The rest of the EU (except Scholz and Orban) will be on the ceasefire policy soon, as will we. The US won’t be far behind once Biden makes a public request which is rejected.

The noises coming out of the Islamic summit are (so far anyway) eminently reasonable too (Iran called for a ban on Israeli overflights and not allowing the US to ship munitions from or via bases in the region to Israel).

If Netanyahu refuses to back down when told to stop, I can see a global boycott happening.

It’s about time, they’ve been a law unto themselves for far too long.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Isreal has multiple times offered the 2 state solution and it's been turned down every time, with an answer along the lines of, no peace with Isreal, Isreal doesn't exist and war will continue until Isreal is no more..
So yes I have had sympathy for Isreal who are the only side who have made efforts to have a peace.. I have felt that the occupation is a result of the lack of intrest in peace coming from the other side. Were these offers of a 2 state solution legitimate we'll never know because it was always met with aggression from Palistine.
That's why I have been pro Isreal.. now it's changing as a result of this period of war.

Im not sure if you can take someone’s lands and then offer peace. The deals always work in Israel’s favour and they know this.

 

[tsubaki]

Im not sure if you can take someone’s lands and then offer peace. The deals always work in Israel’s favour and they know this.

They never stick to the agreements that are made either

 

[Calvin]

They never stick to the agreements that are made either

Why would they? Israel doesn’t want peace, it can’t afford peace.

 

[Martin Alvito]

It’s because they are racists. Muslims or those who sympathise with Muslim causes - like in this case preventing a genocide and stopping the slaughter of thousands of women and children - shouldn’t be allowed to protest.

Cops are allowing the protest, therefore they are the traitors. This is of course being said by people largely funded from abroad.

Over here the racists don't need foreign money, sadly. Wouldn't surprise me if they take it, after laundering to conceal the source.

I think there’s a greater possibility of that happening than at any time in history. The rest of the EU (except Scholz and Orban) will be on the ceasefire policy soon, as will we. The US won’t be far behind once Biden makes a public request which is rejected.

The noises coming out of the Islamic summit are (so far anyway) eminently reasonable too (Iran called for a ban on Israeli overflights and not allowing the US to ship munitions from or via bases in the region to Israel).

If Netanyahu refuses to back down when told to stop, I can see a global boycott happening.

US diplomats are making no bones with their superiors about what a fiasco this is, in terms of relations with the Arab world. It will only get worse unless the Israelis find a way to suppress reporting on what will surely happen in Gaza as water runs thin and modern sanitation goes by the wayside. Sooner or later, the US will have to flip on this one. If the story that the Israelis killed their own, and in quantity, on October 7 can be corroborated by more credible media, it will be sooner.

Netanyahu and the rest do not sound like they will stand down. The only way they can avoid facing the music for October 7 (and other misdeeds) with the Israeli people is a forever war. They're in an interesting pickle, where it seems to me their options are lose now and lose harder later.

 

[Calvin]

And in case anyone is wondering what I mean when I say “Israel cannot afford peace”. Just imagine that Israel was a “normal” state, then imagine the lawsuits etc from victims of its actions over the last 70 years.

 

[Tipp blue]

Im not sure if you can take someone’s lands and then offer peace. The deals always work in Israel’s favour and they know this.

Take the lands or moved to these lands by the US and British after WW2...
It has always been a land of war and the owner of the land has changed multiple times...
Go back 30 years it's israel
Go back 80 years it's palistine
Go back further the Assyrians, British Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Islamic Caliphate, Ottoman Empire, Egypt, Israelites, Philistines. And every time it changed hands there was Death suffering and bloodshed
Take your pick.
Who owns this land? The grim reaper.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Take the lands or moved to these lands by the US and British after WW2...
It has always been a land of war and the owner of the land has changed multiple times...
Go back 30 years it's israel
Go back 80 years it's palistine
Go back further the Assyrians, British Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Islamic Caliphate, Ottoman Empire, Egypt, Israelites, Philistines. Take your pick.
Who owns this land? The grim reaper.

They’ve been forcibly taking these lands every day for 70 years. Ain’t no peace deal going to favour the indigenous Palestinians