Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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What’s the conventional wisdom my Jew / Israel hating lefty socialist friends?

Was the hospital?:

a) bombed by Israel
b) accidentally bombed by Hamas
c) other, e. g. bombed on purpose by Hamas


There seems to be conflicting reports. I wonder which one you “regressives” believe and why?
 
What’s the conventional wisdom my Jew / Israel hating lefty socialist friends?

Was the hospital?:

a) bombed by Israel
b) accidentally bombed by Hamas
c) other, e. g. bombed on purpose by Hamas


There seems to be conflicting reports. I wonder which one you “regressives” believe and why?

The hospital administrator had his house bombed by Israel a few days before this attack, the Israelis bombed the same hospital a few days before this latest bombing, and they gave at least two warnings for it to be evacuated.

The phone call the Israelis claimed to have evesdropped makes no sense (talking in clear, easy possibility for it to be triangulated) and at least one mainstream U.K. media outlet had two experts who said it was fake for a number of linguistic reasons. The media are also mostly pushing a narrative that is demonstrably false too, that the bombs the Israelis use would not cause this type of damage - they would, with a proximity fuse.

Of all the video evidence that’s been put out, none of it actually shows a rocket malfunctioning- the one most often cited probably shows an interception but there’s nothing other than timing to say the debris caused the explosion at the hospital, and that video disproves one of the Israeli claims anyway (that it was launched from next to the hospital).

So me personally I am in the Israel bombed it deliberately camp.
 
What’s the conventional wisdom my Jew / Israel hating lefty socialist friends?

Was the hospital?:

a) bombed by Israel
b) accidentally bombed by Hamas
c) other, e. g. bombed on purpose by Hamas


There seems to be conflicting reports. I wonder which one you “regressives” believe and why?

I think the Israeli government bombed innocent civilians

What do you think?
 
Still didn’t answer the question about the 38 Palestinian children that have been killed in the West Bank at the hands of Israel

Are they just collateral damage? Even though Hamas aren’t in the region?

Tumbleweed... Ill answer you for him.

But Hamas, yes Hamas. Hamas, Hamas, Hamas. Yes Hamas, only Hamas, all Hamas.

Sorry whats the question? Answer is Hamas.

Israel = Good
Hamas = Bad
 
I think the Israeli government bombed innocent civilians

What do you think?
Difficult to say with certainty with regard to the hospital. Bombing of civilians isn’t always a war crime, but yeah sure Israel would have bombed civilians whilst after military targets.

It seems relevant to note here though, that walking into a concert and shooting is a terrorist attack. There’s no doubt about that. I wonder why the terrorist label isn’t used in MSM like the BBC for Hamas?

The Hamas claim is 500 dead not long after the bomb, that landed in a car park? Seems like a fishy claim no? also would Israel miss like that?

There is video evidence knocking round supposedly showing a rocket failing. Trying to get the truth of anything these days is not easy.

I guess people have finally accepted Hamas was beheading babies / children? I know a lot of people outright rejected that, when there is now evidence.

I assume there is a high correlation with people denying the beheadings of babies / children and raping of woman, with those who instantly blamed Israel for the hospital bombing.
 
Difficult to say with certainty with regard to the hospital. Bombing of civilians isn’t always a war crime, but yeah sure Israel would have bombed civilians whilst after military targets.

It seems relevant to note here though, that walking into a concert and shooting is a terrorist attack. There’s no doubt about that. I wonder why the terrorist label isn’t used in MSM like the BBC for Hamas?

The Hamas claim is 500 dead not long after the bomb, that landed in a car park? Seems like a fishy claim no? also would Israel miss like that?

There is video evidence knocking round supposedly showing a rocket failing. Trying to get the truth of anything these days is not easy.

I guess people have finally accepted Hamas was beheading babies / children? I know a lot of people outright rejected that, when there is now evidence.

I assume there is a high correlation with people denying the beheadings of babies / children and raping of woman, with those who instantly blamed Israel for the hospital bombing.

Very interesting. You are really clever.
 
Difficult to say with certainty with regard to the hospital. Bombing of civilians isn’t always a war crime, but yeah sure Israel would have bombed civilians whilst after military targets.

It seems relevant to note here though, that walking into a concert and shooting is a terrorist attack. There’s no doubt about that. I wonder why the terrorist label isn’t used in MSM like the BBC for Hamas?

The Hamas claim is 500 dead not long after the bomb, that landed in a car park? Seems like a fishy claim no? also would Israel miss like that?

There is video evidence knocking round supposedly showing a rocket failing. Trying to get the truth of anything these days is not easy.

I guess people have finally accepted Hamas was beheading babies / children? I know a lot of people outright rejected that, when there is now evidence.

I assume there is a high correlation with people denying the beheadings of babies / children and raping of woman, with those who instantly blamed Israel for the hospital bombing.

Well yeah, it could have been an accident by any side, it could have been on purpose too. Realistically less than 5 people in the world probably know and it might not come out to the public for a long long time

This was a 'perfect' time to push for a ceasefire, or something 'positive" and instead two of the most influential countries cosied up to Israel (who may well have done this) and offered very little aid to the other side

And since then, there appears to be most bombs in Gaza which have been in questionable targets

I'm pretty sure BBC have called Hammas terrorists, but maybe they haven't. But even knows that their act last week was an act of terror anyway
 
The hospital administrator had his house bombed by Israel a few days before this attack, the Israelis bombed the same hospital a few days before this latest bombing, and they gave at least two warnings for it to be evacuated.

The phone call the Israelis claimed to have evesdropped makes no sense (talking in clear, easy possibility for it to be triangulated) and at least one mainstream U.K. media outlet had two experts who said it was fake for a number of linguistic reasons. The media are also mostly pushing a narrative that is demonstrably false too, that the bombs the Israelis use would not cause this type of damage - they would, with a proximity fuse.

Of all the video evidence that’s been put out, none of it actually shows a rocket malfunctioning- the one most often cited probably shows an interception but there’s nothing other than timing to say the debris caused the explosion at the hospital, and that video disproves one of the Israeli claims anyway (that it was launched from next to the hospital).

So me personally I am in the Israel bombed it deliberately camp.
Its going to be pretty hard to hold a conversation with someone who gets their news from Steven Crowder and Ben Shapiro
 
Gonna be brushed off under the carpet (if Israelis done it).
Lesson is war crimes are not a big deal if our side doing it, no special international tribunal in Hague for you as long you are loyal to Uncle Sam.

But this is nothing for what is coming when they enter Gaza, from what i'm reading they were given a green light, gonna be butchery there, like sacks of the cities of old.
 
it’s israel that makes the lives of palestinians miserable the most and have done for decades , they get rid of hamas then what israel give them back the land they stole ? as if
I remember something from probably about 18 or 19 years ago, when I was far younger and had no idea about happenings further out from typical young people things. It was a news story that said Israel were literally marching into Palestine and building a wall and claiming the land that way. I never knew what came from that but it always stuck with me how ridiculous it was to hear it was happening and they were getting away with it
 
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