Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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davek said:
Its absolute bollocks.

How on earth is this open to speculation when we know that Israel has dropped 10,000 missiles on Gaza in 10 days and that they use the kind of airblast munitions that will have left that devastation we see in the hospital and its grounds.

The most important thing is that every one in the Arab world KNOWS this to have been Israel and that plus a ground offensive anytime soon will trigger it all off in those countries.
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Mrk said:
The only thing worse than the horrific waste of human life being caused **by both sides** is the truly shameful people who use every single tragic event as a way to indulge their own sycophantic self-righteous self-obsessed egos.

They don't give a toss about innocent people dying. They merely jump on every single thing and think "how can I use this to prove that myself and 'my side' are right". They don't stop to verify. They don't stop to consider that actually, both sides are equally at fault for this terrible mess. Truly pathetic.
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Does seem to be some point scoring on the hospital bombing, it seems at this stage we don't know who is responsible and it is a disgusting act regardless.

I would hope people don't cheerlead to be right on the responsibilty of this single event.
 
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Spadge Vernacular said:
How do you tink the west benefits in the current climate from an escaltion and war in the middle east? I just don't see this as opportune for us, Putin and Iran 100% yes, but not us.
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'How do you think the west benefits in the current climate from an escalation and war in the middle east'?

It's a typical western centric view of the world, 'how can we benefit,' from situations. Events are looked at as a benefit and loss analysis, for the west.

Biden has gone to occupied Palestine to give the go ahead for an invasion of Gaza, an escalation in the war. Which according to you benefits, 'Russia and Iran'.

The US Ambassador to the UN vetoed a humanitarian resolution, which will lead to an escalation of the war. Which according to you benefits, 'Russia and Iran'.

Seeing that Biden and the ambassador acts have benefited sworn enemies of the US. Surely Biden be impeached and tried with actions that 'benefit Russia and Iran'.

An escalation benefits no one and the UN security council tried on for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. But was voted against by the US, the UK, France and Japan. A positive vote may have stopped the hospital bombing. The hospital bombing will lead to an escalation.

Today's humanitarian vote in the UN was vetoed by the US, this will lead to an escalation of the war.
 
CH4 news analysis there shows that the Israeli explanation is erroneous in terms of where they say 'the Hamas malfunctioning rocket' was launched from: they say a nearby cemetery, the analysis says that's unlikely given the close proximity of it to the hospital and the trajectory of the path the rocket took before detonating mid-air.

On the basis of their previous threats against the hospital and it's shelling by Israel this week...it's Israel that's done that....oine of 10,000 missiles its dropped on Gaza in the last 10 days.
 
Walken said:
Does seem to be some point scoring on the hospital bombing, it seems at this stage we don't know who is responsible and it is a disgusting act regardless.

I would hope people don't cheerlead to be right on the responsibilty of this single event.
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A lot of it is confirmation bias, they already believe that X is evil and therefore if something bad happens, X is obviously responsible. Sadly, much of it is much more sinister though.
 
ramacca said:
'How do you think the west benefits in the current climate from an escalation and war in the middle east'?

It's a typical western centric view of the world, 'how can we benefit,' from situations. Events are looked at as a benefit and loss analysis, for the west.

Biden has gone to occupied Palestine to give the go ahead for an invasion of Gaza, an escalation in the war. Which according to you benefits, 'Russia and Iran'.

The US Ambassador to the UN vetoed a humanitarian resolution, which will lead to an escalation of the war. Which according to you benefits, 'Russia and Iran'.

Seeing that Biden and the ambassador acts have benefited sworn enemies of the US. Surely Biden be impeached and tried with actions that 'benefit Russia and Iran'.

An escalation benefits no one and the UN security council tried on for a ceasefire and humanitarian aid. But was voted against by the US, the UK, France and Japan. A positive vote may have stopped the hospital bombing. The hospital bombing will lead to an escalation.

Today's humanitarian vote in the UN was vetoed by the US, this will lead to an escalation of the war.
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It is that "we" (Western governments) are taking decisions that are blatantly not in our benefit that does my head in. UK governments have spent years trying to build and maintain relationships across the Middle East, and fought a world war to establish a system that at least promised a chance for dialogue and diplomacy to deal with problems.

All of that is being thrown away, in order to support a regime (not the country or its people) that is committing war crimes. It is madness on a scale many times worse than Iraq.
 
davek said:
They have form on denying murders then eventually being forced to admit it was them.

This won't be any different.
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It's so weird.
As posted above, there's evidence coming to light suggesting it may have been a stray Hamas rocker (as they claimed)
If that is really the case, then why this awful fakery?

Whole country has lost the plot.
 
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