Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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peteblue said:
Just answer my original question, although we all know the answer don’t we. Todays fighting and killing is a direct result of Hamas firing thousands of rockets, then invading Israel and killing, murdering and kidnapping innocents. That then brought the exact response that Hamas wanted, bombing from the Israelis onto the innocent Palestinian people. I find it difficult to understand how you cannot accept that Hamas deliberately did this in order to create a wider war and kill more innocents….
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Yes, and Hamas did this because of 50’years of Israeli murder and imprisonment- can you understand that?

Please explain: Roughly 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis had been killed in the ongoing violence since 2008, not counting the recent fatalities, the UN reported.
 
DavidH said:
So you're just ignoring the last 75 years?
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Over the last 70 odd years atrocities by all sides have resulted in deaths of innocents. Wars have been fought and Israeli forces and Terrorists have killed each other and innocents. There are periods not so much of peace but at least without the killing throughout. This latest conflagration started, quite deliberately, when Hamas did what it did, and no amount of whataboutery can change that….
 
peteblue said:
Over the last 70 odd years atrocities by all sides have resulted in deaths of innocents. Wars have been fought and Israeli forces and Terrorists have killed each other and innocents. There are periods not so much of peace but at least without the killing throughout. This latest conflagration started, quite deliberately, when Hamas did what it did, and no amount of whataboutery can change that….
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Roughly 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis had been killed in the ongoing violence since 2008, not counting the recent fatalities, the UN reported.
 
peteblue said:
Over the last 70 odd years atrocities by all sides have resulted in deaths of innocents. Wars have been fought and Israeli forces and Terrorists have killed each other and innocents. There are periods not so much of peace but at least without the killing throughout. This latest conflagration started, quite deliberately, when Hamas did what it did, and no amount of whataboutery can change that….
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You're an idiot. A right wing idiot.
 
Noisy noise annoys said:
Yes, and Hamas did this because of 50’years of Israeli murder and imprisonment- can you understand that?

Please explain: Roughly 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis had been killed in the ongoing violence since 2008, not counting the recent fatalities, the UN reported.
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No they didn’t as Hamas didn’t even exist 50 years ago. Hamas did this deliberately to start a wider war.

I’m not sure what you want explained with your numbers of deaths, yes one is much larger than the other but deaths have happened on both sides.

If Israel had gone into Gaza and murdered hundreds of young people enjoying themselves, killed families, children and babies randomly and taken more than a hundred as hostages, I would be the first to condemn them without recourse to ‘what happened over the last 50 years’. This however was a deliberate and murderous provocation by Hamas with the single aim of causing a wider war and the death of Palestinians and Israelis……
 
peteblue said:
No they didn’t as Hamas didn’t even exist 50 years ago. Hamas did this deliberately to start a wider war.

I’m not sure what you want explained with your numbers of deaths, yes one is much larger than the other but deaths have happened on both sides.

If Israel had gone into Gaza and murdered hundreds of young people enjoying themselves, killed families, children and babies randomly and taken more than a hundred as hostages, I would be the first to condemn them without recourse to ‘what happened over the last 50 years’. This however was a deliberate and murderous provocation by Hamas with the single aim of causing a wider war and the death of Palestinians and Israelis……
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They murdered 500 kids in one month ffs
There are thousands of Palestinian prisoners held without charge ffs
Literally all the things you say, Israel do daily and have done for decades. We all despise whst hamas did but Israel are the original sinners and, as we are now witnessing, do it many, many times worse. Good luck in your support of the occupiers and their slaughter of their hosts
 
Charro said:
I just want to know your thoughts on Israel and how they have responded to the attack?

Cutting off basic supplies, children dying of thirst, bombing places they're telling people to flee to.

Is this something you condone?
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Absolutely not. It’s a disgrace that anyone would condone it and Israel have been particularly stupid in doing it. They need to concentrate on ridding Hamas not causing even more pain on innocent Palestinians…….
 
Noisy noise annoys said:
They murdered 500 kids in one month ffs
There are thousands of Palestinian prisoners held without charge ffs
Literally all the things you say, Israel do daily and have done for decades. We all despise whst hamas did but Israel are the original sinners and, as we are now witnessing, do it many, many times worse. Good luck in your support of the occupiers and their slaughter of their hosts
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When were these 500 kids murdered….
 
I think there's too much focus on just the hospital bombing right now, with some forgetting the continuous bombing of refugee camps, residential areas and the exact areas that civilians were told would be safe by the Israelis.

Excluding the hospital bombing they've caused thousands of innocent deaths, with the hospital it's on a completely different level.

The fact that Israel hasn't once been admonished by any western leader for their terror campaign against the Palestinians is so telling.
 
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