Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Noisy noise annoys]

I'm sorry, but I think this amounts just to a lengthy 'blame the victims' essay.

"The opportunity was there to turn Gaza into a tourist attraction where other industries could be built". A "Dubai on the Mediterranean." I mean, come on FFS. How on earth could that happen when it was still a giant 'kin prison and suffering from periodic murderous incursions by the Israeli military for having the temerity to choose their own political leadership.

This is just nuts.

And it doesn't matter who's in charge: Fatah, Hamas, or Uncle Tom Cobley and all. There'll always be an excuse to kettle them into their prison unable to leave and facing harassment and misery. The Israeli state depends on a constant harassment of the West Bank and Gaza. That's the reality of the situation. As Netanyahu stated: "It's to our benefit that Hamas rule in Gaza". The far right policy of the Israeli Government whipped up by religious fundamentalists...sorry...'terrorists' meant they'd constantly inflame the situation in Gaza (and in Jerusalem - the West Bank), and that's been the conditions under which last Saturday's explosion of violence occured.

You may know a lot more detail about the Gaza situation but it doesn't make you right. It does no one's argument any good to blithely ignore those structural reasons for this present conflict.

Excellent post

Bigmick does indeed know his stuff, unfortunately it is always paints the Palestinians as the issue.

 

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Israel accuses Iran of ordering Sunday's Hezbollah attacks at Lebanon border

The Israeli military accused Iran on Monday of having ordered attacks by Hezbollah at the Lebanon-Israel border on Sunday.

www.reuters.com

 

[mightymoyes]

 

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Sorry, @davek is right here

In your opinion. I know that it will trigger a few but that is to be expected.

 

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Full interview here gives a view of the situation behind his state of mind. Everybody will lose.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Full interview here gives a view of the situation behind his state of mind. Everybody will lose.

When you say you are at war with civilians you lost already…..had Hamas of Abbas said that It would be all over the media in the west used as fuel to kill more Palestinians.

Western hypocrisy

 

[Milkman]

Last Tuesday my wife wrote this for one of the NGOs that we support. It has since been picked up and published elsewhere so she's allowed me to translate it and post it on here, minus the opening section which contained personal details of the events of 7th October. I've added a few explanatory notes at the end.

It's probably too long to post on here, but some people may be interested enough to plough through it. Obviously there have been developments since.
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Thanks for taking the time to post – I can't say I agree with all of what you've said but it was an interesting read all the same. The assessment of Hamas is very true, but the potential of Gaza post-2005 is... erm... idealistic, to put it politely.

I would say though, for an article proclaiming its neutrality, that this comes across as incredibly one-sided.

 

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When you say you are at war with civilians you lost already

Agreed. That same for any suggesting wiping an entire people/nation off the map, be that Israel, Palestine or Ukraine.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Egypt opening the border for refugees. Thats great news.

Only foreign nationals though isnt it?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Only foreign nationals though isnt it?

Think so and to let humanitarian aid in. Egypt has said they’ll treat any injured but they have understandable concerns about the possibility of a humanitarian / refugee crisis developing in Sinai.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Landlord accused of killing six-year-old Muslim boy and stabbing mother

Joseph Czuba, 71, charged with hate crime after attack allegedly driven by Israel-Hamas war

www.theguardian.com

awful.

 

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Israeli ground offensive in Gaza faces physical and political risks

Military has might on its side but Hamas is prepared and the humanitarian fallout could prove costly

www.theguardian.com

 

[Rita_Poon]

It is a rare thing in a war when both sides want the same goal, bloodshed of Palestinians. For Israel it is the payback for their dead, for hamas it is a clarion call for more fighters to take up arms. And so the situation escalates, Israel can't be seen to be backing down and hamas has plenty of rockets with which to egg them on.
Someone needs to ask the Israelis, "what multiple of Palestinian deaths is enough to satisfy you for your dead?"

 

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[mightymoyes]

bbc would do the same if someone called IDF a terrorist organisation here