Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Alan Whittle]

You dont have any idea do you...

...cant answer my question.

So YOU dont know.



Again, Hamas is not Palestine. It is is terror group.

Im not "avoiding". I dont have enough information on the PLO leadership or FATAH, Hezbollah or muslim brotherhood to see which parts of which group are in favour of what.

Better to stick to what I know about which is Hamas. Where i dont need to know about individuals and their views...same with Israel...

To have an informed opinion you need to know all the players in the game.

So as in my opening sentence, id rather focus on the actual terror group thats sole purposes are to destroy israel and and kill all jews.

The one funded by the axis of evil.

Literally the group who murdered and kidnapped all those innocent people.

None of that is relevant to what I posted. Ignoring the fate of the non terrorist ordinary Palestinians is only seeing one viewpoint.

 

[Zatara]

It isn't "what to look at" though - it has no subtitles, and unless you speak Arabic you have no idea what it says. Loomer is a very far right figure in the US, someone who (even though she is Jewish herself) has repeatedly expressed sympathy with modern Nazis.

As for the threats to execute captives, that is horrific but what they actually threatened was to execute captives if the bombing of civilian houses in Gaza continues.

So youre saying "no it doesnt prove anything with no subtitles. In fact its fine as they will only execute hostages from all over the world if people agree to their demands".

Of course it matters who she is, or at least should. I can see why you've lapped it up though.

Youve deflected again and again.

Clearly a warped person who supports terrorism.

Sticking you on ignore.

Why you didnt just write how happy you are with the attacks is just pitiful.

 

[Alan Whittle]

So youre saying "no it doesnt prove anything with no subtitles. In fact its fine as they will only execute hostages from all over the world if people agree to their demands".



Youve deflected again and again.

Clearly a warped person who supports terrorism.

Sticking you on ignore.

Why you didnt just write how happy you are with the attacks is just pitiful.

Your own ranting has backed you into a pitiful intellectual corner. Reduced to ignoring people.

 

[BNJ1878]

Agreed, but the reason for these attacks is Israel’s behaviour for the last 50 years. This needs to be acknowledged before simply blaming hamas

Acknowledged by whom?

Nobody that matters is going to acknowledge what the state has done is wrong. Nobody with genuine clout on the world stage is going to, particularly after the last few days.

It's a complete mess and that's all their is to say about it really.

It's NOT getting 'fixed' with an admission of guilt for past crimes.

I half expect Gaza to be razed to the ground once they get back the living hostages (if their are any) and then the full focus of the Israeli leadership will then be on the West Bank and Southern Lebanon. (By the way, the majority of Lebanese would like nothing more than Hezbollah to be next in the firing line, they're a major reason that stunning beautiful country is on the bones of its arse.)

Not every woe is me tale coming out of the levant region is down to Israeli brutality. Some is, plenty isn't.

As Zat has said, Hamas are an internationally recognised terror organisation. The Israelis use that label as fair game. You're either openly against Hamas or you're obviously with them. There's no keeping your head down and trying your best to get on with your day. They don't deal in grey area. (Particularly this current Israeli government with an equally bloodthirsty loon at the wheel)

The most crackers thing about it all? It's all stemmed from some made up magic man in the sky and what version of his series of short stories you believe.

How messed up is that?

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Israeli artillery is now pummelling Gaza.

 

[tsubaki]

So youre saying "no it doesnt prove anything with no subtitles. In fact its fine as they will only execute hostages from all over the world if people agree to their demands".



Youve deflected again and again.

Clearly a warped person who supports terrorism.

Sticking you on ignore.

Why you didnt just write how happy you are with the attacks is just pitiful.

I'll miss you.

 

[longers]

Whenever Zat steps outside of the Everton forum it's absolute carnage, top disrupter lol

 

[Tin-Tin]

Israeli artillery have now started pummelling Gaza.

Seems to be indiscriminate.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Seems to be indiscriminate.

They’re going to destroy Gaza block by block

 

[Zatara]

That is not true.
Anyone who is myopic about one side or the other prefers the path of violence.

You have two entities in Palestine and Israel.

Then you have a terror group that murders both Palestinians and Israelis.

Its not so simple as to hate either palestine or israel.

Hamas is not on anyones side but their own.

I condemn Hamas for their actions. Do you condemn the IDF for theirs?

Again, wtf does this have to do with Hamas?

I could easily say YES israels idf and leadership that claim to want peace has done terrible things and also different groups in palestine that claim to want peace have done terrible things.

There is no side to take here for me because (as ive stated) i have no position in favour of either palestine or israel because i do not know the exact views of a number of the leadership from the groups in palestine or israel (there is also so much disinformation its impossible to know unless youre in that circle).

The ONLY thing i am commenting on is Hamas.

People seem to think Hamas is on the side of Palestine. It is not.

 

[DavidH]

You have two entities in Palestine and Israel.

Then you have a terror group that murders both Palestinians and Israelis.

Its not so simple as to hate either palestine or israel.

Hamas is not on anyones side but their own.



Again, wtf does this have to do with Hamas?

I could easily say YES israels idf and leadership that claim to want peace has done terrible things and also different groups in palestine that claim to want peace have done terrible things.

There is no side to take here for me because (as ive stated) i have no position in favour of either palestine or israel because i do not know the exact views of a number of the leadership from the groups in palestine or israel (there is also so much disinformation its impossible to know unless youre in that circle).

The ONLY thing i am commenting on is Hamas.

People seem to think Hamas is on the side of Palestine. It is not.

So you don't condemn the IDF for their actions. Ok, now stop calling people Hamas supporters with zero evidence or people can rightly call you an IDF supporting scumbag.

 

[tsubaki]

They’re going to destroy Gaza block by block

they must not be allowed to do this - what happens in the next few days will determine whether we actually have a rules based international order or not

if it is not stopped, the Government had better start pouring money into the armed forces because we are going to need them

 

[Rita_Poon]

3 minutes into channel 4 news. That's more than enough. So needless, so wasteful, and so sad.

 

[Billy Dean]

Reports of Israel using white phosphorus on Gaza. Brutal if true

 

[tsubaki]

Reports of Israel using white phosphorus on Gaza. Brutal if true

which was correctly described as a war crime when the Russians used it on Kherson