Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

[Caolam]

No. But that wasn't my point.

If you are arguing that Northern Ireland is not a country in its own right, which is what you are I believe, then applying the same argument to England Scotland and Wales, you are saying they aren't oountries in their own right either.

Quite a few Scottish Welsh and racists would disagree with you

I now see what you are saying, I am very happy that racists would disagree with me.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I now see what you are saying, I am very happy that racists would disagree with me.

Yeah but what about the Scottish and Welsh?

 

[Armaghtoffee]

No. But that wasn't my point.

If you are arguing that Northern Ireland is not a country in its own right, which is what you are I believe, then applying the same argument to England Scotland and Wales, you are saying they aren't oountries in their own right either.

Quite a few Scottish Welsh and racists would disagree with you

You wouldn’t apply the same logic to England, Scotland or Wales though, would you?

NI is best described as part of the Province of Ulster that is currently governed by the U.K.

Total faith in Brexit and the DUP to remedy this constitutional status.

 

[Caolam]

Yeah but what about the Scottish and Welsh?

Looks like Scotland may become a country in it’s own right sometime soon if the early election results continue, Wales on the other hand seem very content to be linked to England. Personally I have no issue with people calling Scotland, England, Wales or Northern Ireland a country even if, in the truest meaning of a country, they are not.

 

[Barnfred 55]

You wouldn’t apply the same logic to England, Scotland or Wales though, would you?

Well yes. I've always considered Northern Ireland to be a country in the same way I consider Wales, Scotland and England to be countries.

Whether that is factually correct I don't know but it's how I've always considered it. We either are all countries, or none of us are surely.

I mean, it has it's own football team and it competes in the Commonwealth games as if it's a country.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Looks like Scotland may become a country in it’s own right sometime soon if the early election results continue, Wales on the other hand seem very content to be linked to England. Personally I have no issue with people calling Scotland, England, Wales or Northern Ireland a country even if, in the truest meaning of a country, they are not.

Yeah, apologies mate. My bad.

It was somebody else who pulled you up for referring to Northern Ireland as a country. My original post was actually intended to support you, not have a pop. Sort of went off piste from there.

As I said in my last post, I don't know what the actual legal status is. Globally, we're recognised as the UK rather than individual countries. And even I look upon myself as British first and English second. But whatever term is applied to the four nation states, it should apply to each of us. Don't see how you can call Northern Ireland a Provence and the other three countries.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Well yes. I've always considered Northern Ireland to be a country in the same way I consider Wales, Scotland and England to be countries.

Whether that is factually correct I don't know but it's how I've always considered it. We either are all countries, or none of us are surely.

I mean, it has it's own football team and it competes in the Commonwealth games as if it's a country.

Sports Day for the colonies lol

NI is as much known as a Province as a Country. Even the DUP will refer to it often as a Province albeit ignoring the other 3 constituent counties.

None of the other UK countries have a significant part of their population deny it’s very existence at all as a country.

It’s not really comparing apples with apples mate.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Sports Day for the colonies lol

Ha ha. Just jealous that you're not invited to compete in it. lol

Let's agree to disagree, You can call it a province and I'll call it a country.

 

[Khalekan]

Ha ha. Just jealous that you're not invited to compete in it. lol

Let's agree to disagree, You can call it a province and I'll call it a country.

Eh?

Barney, Army is in Armagh, as his handle suggests.

That means he lives in that part of Ireland which does indeed send a team to the “sports day for the colonies”.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Eh?

Barney, Army is in Armagh, as his handle suggests.

That means he lives in that part of Ireland which does indeed send a team to the “sports day for the colonies”.

Geography A level too

 

[Khalekan]

Now the leader of the other Unionist party has resigned.

 

[Drumblue]

Well yes. I've always considered Northern Ireland to be a country in the same way I consider Wales, Scotland and England to be countries.

Whether that is factually correct I don't know but it's how I've always considered it. We either are all countries, or none of us are surely.

I mean, it has it's own football team and it competes in the Commonwealth games as if it's a country.

Yea it is a country it's part of the island of Ireland.100 years ago Ireland was partitioned against the wishes of the Irish people, no referendum, no democracy.

 

[Drumblue]

Yea it is a country it's part of the island of Ireland.100 years ago Ireland was partitioned against the wishes of the Irish people, no referendum, no democracy.View attachment 126652

I'm from West Belfast.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I'm from West Belfast.

Good for you

 

[Drumblue]

Good for you

Lol....