Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

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JimmyJeffers said:
He’s a several times banned now poster. Lives in NI or the US depending on what mood he’s in. Also been banned off every other everton site going. Some people say he’s a douche. Not me though.
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Are you talking about me? How unsurprising to see that the conspiracies of the nutters continue in overdrive...
 
ramacca said:
Seinn Fein and the SDLP boxed clever to try and oust as many DUP MPs as possible. It was very much a tactical agreement. By losing two seats, one to the Alliance in North Down where neither the SDLP nor SF stood, South Belfast where the SF didn't stand and Dodds in North Belfast where the SDLP didn't stand, the DUP were put on the back foot. Not only is there Nationalists in Westminster to take on the DUP, but now he DUP has been forced to agree to re-open Stormont. Their humiliation was complete as they had to accept the Irish language arrangement. "At the core of the deal was a plan by the British and Irish government to create two new “language commissioners” as part of a cultural policy to put Gaelic on the same legal standing as English while protecting Ulster British culture"
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Will that lead to dual street signages etc?
 
toffee9 said:
The DUP needn't be concerned. There are on the face of it a lot of barriers to that. Economics is a major one. The only way that I, for example, would consider voting for a reunited Ireland is if RoI guaranteed, in the first instance, to exceed the revenue that NI receives from the UK every year in perpetuity.

Then consider for example how integrating within the RoI would affect citizens in NI. Start with healthcare. You have to pay in RoI for various hospital admissions and just to see a GP. Why in NI would I agree to start paying for something which I currently get for free in the UK?

Wikipedia on RoI: People who are not entitled to a Medical Card (i.e. 68.1% of the population) must pay fees for certain health care services. There is a €100 A&E charge for those who attend an accident and emergency department without a referral letter from a family doctor (a visit to which usually costs €45–75, though some practices offer rates as low as €25-35 for over-65s and students[6]). Hospital charges (for inpatients) are a flat fee of €80 per day up to a maximum of €800 in any twelve-month period, irrespective of the actual care received.
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Yeah, I just looked at that. About 40% of the population covered by the medical card system. There also looks like there are a lot of loopholes for those not means tested to also gain the card (or to use other public funds to avoid payment). I'd like to know what all that adds up to. But on a general principle, I take your point. It's targeted and not universal. That would be a bitter pill to swallow in any unification assessment. However, you'll have to factor in also how the UK will shape up in the future when the NHS will (despite what the Tories say) be shaken up in future trade deals with the U.S. There could be a lot of convergence on healthcare systems eventually.
 
The Sinners and Duppers had to come to an agreement to go back into the Assembly. If they had not they would have suffered once again at the hands of an increasingly savvy electorate. Can you imagine their candidates showing up on the doorstep to ask for a vote when they have sat on their hands for three years being paid when nurses etc. are losing pay for being on strike to correct an injustice of their making.
This is politicians saving their own skins and nothing else.
 
Caolam said:
The Sinners and Duppers had to come to an agreement to go back into the Assembly. If they had not they would have suffered once again at the hands of an increasingly savvy electorate. Can you imagine their candidates showing up on the doorstep to ask for a vote when they have sat on their hands for three years being paid when nurses etc. are losing pay for being on strike to correct an injustice of their making.
This is politicians saving their own skins and nothing else.
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I always thought they were called 'shinners'?
 
davek said:
Will that lead to dual street signages etc?
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We already have dual street names. Naming of streets is a Council matter, nothing to do with the Assembly. I live in a street with dual signage, it is something I very rarely think about.
I live in a nationalist council area so our names are English/Irish, in a neighbouring Unionist council area they have English/Ulster Scots. Again it is something that doesn't have any effect on me.
 
Caolam said:
We already have dual street names. Naming of streets is a Council matter, nothing to do with the Assembly. I live in a street with dual signage, it is something I very rarely think about.
I live in a nationalist council area so our names are English/Irish, in a neighbouring Unionist council area they have English/Ulster Scots. Again it is something that doesn't have any effect on me.
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WTF does that look like? Can you give an example?

Thanks for the clarification on council differences.
 
davek said:
WTF does that look like? Can you give an example?

Thanks for the clarification on council differences.
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It is not a language, Dave.

It is pidgeon English.

I am on my phone at the moment but I will post you a classic example of Ulster Scots when I get home.

Quick example....you know the way Geordies say "wor" in place of "our"?

As in "wor lass" or "wor hoose" (house)?

Well, that is literally known as "Ulster Scots" in Ulster (6 of 9).
 
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