Pity, was hoping an election would be called and the DUP suffer big losses
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The DUP have done well in swallowing their pride to get this show back on the road. It cannot have been easy for them. I think they got hung out to dry by the Tories big time, and that's why they really didn't want any more parliamentary elections. NI hopefully can get stuck into some of the problems brewing, the strikes in the healthservice chief among them. This is a good day.
I know yeah.
I'm being slightly tongue in cheek.
Suppose they cant do much worse this time lol
The DUP has nowhere to go. Julian Smith reminded them of their position and they had to agree a deal.
I think it will stick this time although somebody in Unionism has to step up and prepare their electorate for debates ahead.
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Interesting to hear Jonathan Powell (a fairly level headed man) state tonight that for the first time in his life he believes there will be a united Ireland - economically the north has more in common with the RoI - and that the numbers are moving toward a border poll.
No big surprise.....very predictable after the GE results last month.
An election was the last thing either the DUPers and the Sinners wanted.
Both major parties were punished by their target electorates.....the DUP for its disastrous pro Brexit policy inside Westminster, Sinn Fein for standing outside the door doing sod all.
John Finucane’s victory in Belfast North glossed over what was an otherwise very disappointing night for the Sinners.
If I am not mistaken their overall share of the vote was down even more than the DUP.
When is this RHI report ever going to see the light of day?
I think Mrs. Foster is only being kept in charge of the DUP so she can take the fall when it eventually comes out so any new leader fetched in before that won’t have to deal with the fall out in his or her early days.
An election was the last thing either the DUPers and the Sinners wanted.
Both major parties were punished by their target electorates.....the DUP for its disastrous pro Brexit policy inside Westminster, Sinn Fein for standing outside the door doing sod all.
John Finucane’s victory in Belfast North glossed over what was an otherwise very disappointing night for the Sinners.
If I am not mistaken their overall share of the vote was down even more than the DUP.
When is this RHI report ever going to see the light of day?
I think Mrs. Foster is only being kept in charge of the DUP so she can take the fall when it eventually comes out so any new leader fetched in before that won’t have to deal with the fall out in his or her early days.
You guys over there don’t know how lucky you are, not having this full on Tory Brexit foisted upon you Army.
I think the EU should allow 6 of 9 to retain its three Euro seats.
Is there any talk of that happening?
Powell has always been Nationalist in his outlook and I can tell you that from personal experience of him. He did a lot of background work here for Blair and in particular Mo Mowlam in the mid 90s and he had a definite talent for seeing the bigger picture and detailing it for you.
He is right of course. Brexit has energised unification sentiments right as the Nationalist voting base is enjoying boom times of first time voters.
No talk whatsoever of that Khal.
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A reunited Ireland is what DUP are scared of most, however, they might now be able to reconcile themselves to their true Irishness after this betrayal by Johnson. Ultimately this happening I can see only being good for Northern Ireland, both economical terms and socially with Irelands ever increasing progressiveness
Seinn Fein and the SDLP boxed clever to try and oust as many DUP MPs as possible. It was very much a tactical agreement. By losing two seats, one to the Alliance in North Down where neither the SDLP nor SF stood, South Belfast where the SF didn't stand and Dodds in North Belfast where the SDLP didn't stand, the DUP were put on the back foot. Not only is there Nationalists in Westminster to take on the DUP, but now he DUP has been forced to agree to re-open Stormont. Their humiliation was complete as they had to accept the Irish language arrangement. "At the core of the deal was a plan by the British and Irish government to create two new “language commissioners” as part of a cultural policy to put Gaelic on the same legal standing as English while protecting Ulster British culture"
The DUP needn't be concerned. There are on the face of it a lot of barriers to that. Economics is a major one. The only way that I, for example, would consider voting for a reunited Ireland is if RoI guaranteed, in the first instance, to exceed the revenue that NI receives from the UK every year in perpetuity.
Then consider for example how integrating within the RoI would affect citizens in NI. Start with healthcare. You have to pay in RoI for various hospital admissions and just to see a GP. Why in NI would I agree to start paying for something which I currently get for free in the UK?
Wikipedia on RoI: People who are not entitled to a Medical Card (i.e. 68.1% of the population) must pay fees for certain health care services. There is a €100 A&E charge for those who attend an accident and emergency department without a referral letter from a family doctor (a visit to which usually costs €45–75, though some practices offer rates as low as €25-35 for over-65s and students[6]). Hospital charges (for inpatients) are a flat fee of €80 per day up to a maximum of €800 in any twelve-month period, irrespective of the actual care received.
I stopped reading right there.
You seem to be about to bring as much insight to this thread as you did on the POTUS one.
i.e. not very much.
I've hit a nerve have I? Conquest is costly. Ask the British government about it ....
He’s a several times banned now poster. Lives in NI or the US depending on what mood he’s in. Also been banned off every other everton site going. Some people say he’s a douche. Not me though.
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