Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

[Armaghtoffee]

I’ll probably get an infraction for that. I urge people to look for it , watch and reach your own decisions. I have lived through this, not relying on news reports. I know what’s what, more than you know.

How would you solve the Brexit border issue Jeff?

 

[Kurt.]

How would you solve the Brexit border issue Jeff?

3700 end to end bottles of frosty jack to block the road




Empties of course

 

[bigbadjeff]

How would you solve the Brexit border issue Jeff?

I couldn’t. Too many in trenched views on both sides.

 

[bigbadjeff]

I couldn’t. Too many in trenched views on both sides.

They all need their heads banged together.

 

[bigbadjeff]

They all need their heads banged together.

In fact , with two diametrically intrenched views , I don’t see a solution.

 

[Khalekan]

Believe it or not Dave, that interviewee (Jeffrey Donaldson) is likely to replace Arlene as leader later this year.

Arlene should very much be seen now as the DUP mudguard for all things Brexit.

I thought Deputy Dodds was next in line.

But wait......he might not have a seat this time next month lol

 

[roydo]

In fact , with two diametrically intrenched views , I don’t see a solution.

I said that 3 years ago. Its 2 borders in one, which in a post brexit world, just cannot co exist. Impossible to do so.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

I thought Deputy Dodds was next in line.

But wait......he might not have a seat this time next month lol

Widely thought that Dodds is content to be a leading figure but not the leader hence why Arlene is in the hot seat now.

If the Remain parties get their act together and agree a pact I fully expect him to lose his seat.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Brexit to hurt Irish imports from UK more than exports

Britain accounts for 24% of food, fuel and other merchandise brought into State

www.irishtimes.com

Joey you quoted a 66% figure. I cant see that in the article you linked. Am I missing something?

I did read that Ireland imports £3bn more from the UK that it exports to the UK. What do you think about that?

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Yeah? Well I'm done learning mate.

I know you like to wind up a few in here but I don't even do that. But just because I voted Brexit everything I post is scrutinised to death. You get fed up in the end.

Hang on. I scan this thread all the time and I didnt pick up anything save a bit where tou suggested one possible option was Ireland somehow merging with the UK?

Everyone here is happy to debate and on that basis I wouldnt suggest alligning with someone that doesnt ever use a fact to substantiate a claim.......

 

[Khalekan]

I thought the political class we have over this side of the Irish Sea was poor, but that lot are a disgrace. The sullen look on Donaldson's face when being asked basic questions to hold him to account screams 'entitlement'. The horrible get.

After that interview Mark Carruthers went on to interview a fellow from the road haulage industry in NI.

Seamus someone or other.

Mr. Carruthers put it to him that Mr. Donaldson says that more NI goods are sent to GB than the rest of the world cimbined.

Seamus said that was true.

He went on to say however, that most of the raw materials to produce those goods came in by lorry from the Republic and a re-imposed border would cripple them

And in the case of the millions of gallons of milk exported from NI to GB each year, that milk first of all had to go from farms in Ulster (6 of 9) to processing plants in Ireland (26 of 32) then back again before coming to England, crossing the British imposed border in Ireland twice

It is an unholy mess of a quality the Byzantiums would have been proud.

 

[Walken]

Joey you quoted a 66% figure. I cant see that in the article you linked. Am I missing something?

I did read that Ireland imports £3bn more from the UK that it exports to the UK. What do you think about that?

It's pretty unreasonable to expect him to actually read what he links beyond the title in his google search

 

[roydo]

And in the case of the millions of gallons of milk exported from NI to GB each year, that milk first of all had to go from farms in Ulster (6 of 9) to processing plants in Ireland (26 of 32) then back again before coming to England, crossing the British imposed border in Ireland twice

Folk just dont, or wont, accept that decades of mutual trade, that no one knows about, and even fewer care, cannot be sorted by some pipsqueak politicians who have no idea neither.

Guess where Europes biggest producer of marscapone cheese is based? (The stuff on pizzas) And guess where all of their milk is imported from?

I will save you the trouble. North Wales, and ROI are the answers. Pretty much every pizza in Italy is made in a Welsh factory, with Irish milk.

 

[Ruairi77]

Yeah? Well I'm done learning mate.

I know you like to wind up a few in here but I don't even do that. But just because I voted Brexit everything I post is scrutinised to death. You get fed up in the end.

mate, to be honest, I think you're taking this very hard.
Your posts are subject to scrutiny because they're quite well thought out and usually avoid the pit falls that other brexit voters fall in to.
I like reading your opinion.
However...
You've got to understand that a post that suggests, no matter how lightly, that the republic of Ireland could rejoin the UK, is always going to be met with a mixed response.
I'd pretty much guarantee you that there isn't one anti British or anti English poster from Ireland on here. We all have family in England, most of us have lived in England at some point and we are all here because we support an English football team.
What you will find in this thread is frustration, frustration with the way Ireland (both north and south) is being used as a bargaining chip when it suits, frustrated that Ireland is being blamed by some for this mess, frustrated that the people who feel strongest about brexit also seem to be the ones who have the poorest grasp of the workings of the British border in Ireland.
So, rather than get annoyed and give up, listen to the people who live on that border. You have a great opportunity to chat to people who's lives will be ruined if a hard border (or two) returns.
Don't get put off by quips about moving Ireland closer to France or what ever.

Sorry, having a rant, but persevere.

 

[Khalekan]

mate, to be honest, I think you're taking this very hard.
Your posts are subject to scrutiny because they're quite well thought out and usually avoid the pit falls that other brexit voters fall in to.
I like reading your opinion.
However...
You've got to understand that a post that suggests, no matter how lightly, that the republic of Ireland could rejoin the UK, is always going to be met with a mixed response.
I'd pretty much guarantee you that there isn't one anti British or anti English poster from Ireland on here. We all have family in England, most of us have lived in England at some point and we are all here because we support an English football team.
What you will find in this thread is frustration, frustration with the way Ireland (both north and south) is being used as a bargaining chip when it suits, frustrated that Ireland is being blamed by some for this mess, frustrated that the people who feel strongest about brexit also seem to be the ones who have the poorest grasp of the workings of the British border in Ireland.
So, rather than get annoyed and give up, listen to the people who live on that border. You have a great opportunity to chat to people who's lives will be ruined if a hard border (or two) returns.
Don't get put off by quips about moving Ireland closer to France or what ever.

Sorry, having a rant, but persevere.

Well said, Ruari