Current Affairs Iran

[perth_blue]

Seems things are kicking off their following the death of 22 year old woman, Mahsa Amini whilst in police custody.

Mahsa Amini’s brutal death may be moment of reckoning for Iran

Signs of groundswell taking shape against state that routinely commits extreme acts of violence against men and women

www.theguardian.com

Iranian women have been out protesting burning their veils.



Reports suggesting that it is spreading to a general revolt against the dictatorship.







Anonymous seemingly joining in.

‘Anonymous’ hacks Iran state websites after Mahsa Amini’s death

The two main websites of the Iranian government and several media websites have been targeted by hackers.

www.aljazeera.com

@davek

Fvkin good on em.
Kick his fulkin head in. I don't usually condone violence, but they're so far out of touch.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[verreauxi]

I recall reading that in the 70s the Shaw made women's rights a key part of his agenda. I also recall reading how the Israeli's helped build a lot of infrastructure during the 60s/70s, which is why there is a star of David on the Tehran airport roof. I became a bit enamored with Iran because when I was living in Mexico in the late 70s/early 80s as a child, one of my close childhood friends was from Iran (his family fled the revolution). We were in 3rd grade together and he taught me how to play chess. Later in grad school around 2001, I also befriended a grad student who had also fled with his family in 78 and moved to Spain (and later to the USA) and he would tell me about his recollection of Iran prior to the revolution (he was a bit older than me, so he must have fled when he was like 13 or so). Seemed like it had some promising progressive agendas back then (though not without its faults), only to fall into religious zealotry, which, sadly, is now happening here in the US.

 

[perth_blue]

I recall reading that in the 70s the Shaw made women's rights a key part of his agenda. I also recall reading how the Israeli's helped build a lot of infrastructure during the 60s/70s, which is why there is a star of David on the Tehran airport roof. I became a bit enamored with Iran because when I was living in Mexico in the late 70s/early 80s as a child, one of my close childhood friends was from Iran (his family fled the revolution). We were in 3rd grade together and he taught me how to play chess. Later in grad school around 2001, I also befriended a grad student who had also fled with his family in 78 and moved to Spain (and later to the USA) and he would tell me about his recollection of Iran prior to the revolution (he was a bit older than me, so he must have fled when he was like 13 or so). Seemed like it had some promising progressive agendas back then (though not without its faults), only to fall into religious zealotry, which, sadly, is now happening here in the US.

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Can you please go into detail? Interested to hear.

 

[spectateur]

I recall reading that in the 70s the Shaw made women's rights a key part of his agenda. I also recall reading how the Israeli's helped build a lot of infrastructure during the 60s/70s, which is why there is a star of David on the Tehran airport roof. I became a bit enamored with Iran because when I was living in Mexico in the late 70s/early 80s as a child, one of my close childhood friends was from Iran (his family fled the revolution). We were in 3rd grade together and he taught me how to play chess. Later in grad school around 2001, I also befriended a grad student who had also fled with his family in 78 and moved to Spain (and later to the USA) and he would tell me about his recollection of Iran prior to the revolution (he was a bit older than me, so he must have fled when he was like 13 or so). Seemed like it had some promising progressive agendas back then (though not without its faults), only to fall into religious zealotry, which, sadly, is now happening here in the US.

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The Shah was a puppet head of state set up by the Americans after their help in overthrowing the previous democratically elected leader.(for access to oil)
Not all Iranians wanted the westernised lifestyle that came with the Shah.
This opened the way for the extremist factions to eventually overthrow the Shah regime. Leading to the ayatollahs.

 

[verreauxi]

The Shah was a puppet head of state set up by the Americans after their help in overthrowing the previous democratically elected leader.(for access to oil)
Not all Iranians wanted the westernised lifestyle that came with the Shah.
This opened the way for the extremist factions to eventually overthrow the Shah regime. Leading to the ayatollahs.

Yes, I was aware of that (though I’m by no means an expert on Iran political history). I also read that a fair amount of far left joined the revolution as well. They just didn’t get a seat at the table after it.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Can you please go into detail? Interested to hear.

Funny, I wanted elaboration on the other details. Quality origin story. I want to hear more.

 

[verreauxi]

Can you please go into detail? Interested to hear.

Funny, I wanted elaboration on the other details. Quality origin story. I want to hear more.

Only meant that in the US, Christian Nationalism has largely hijacked the Republican party (witness the abortion bans, the appointment of SCOTUS judge Barrett, Mike Pence as VP, or the various proclamations by Republican candidates who call for "Christian values", etc.). Christian Nationalism also forms a huge part of the various white nationalist movements as well, the latter which have also gained more prominence.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Only meant that in the US, Christian Nationalism has largely hijacked the Republican party (witness the abortion bans, the appointment of SCOTUS judge Barrett, Mike Pence as VP, or the various proclamations by Republican candidates who call for "Christian values", etc.). Christian Nationalism also forms a huge part of the various white nationalist movements as well, the latter which have also gained more prominence.

I mean, I agree there.

It was the origin story that was compelling, in the post in question.

 

[zukai12_]

The Shah was a puppet head of state set up by the Americans after their help in overthrowing the previous democratically elected leader.(for access to oil)
Not all Iranians wanted the westernised lifestyle that came with the Shah.
This opened the way for the extremist factions to eventually overthrow the Shah regime. Leading to the ayatollahs.

To add to that, SAVAK, the Shahs secret police were just as brutal and opressive as the current lot

 

[verreauxi]

I mean, I agree there.

It was the origin story that was compelling, in the post in question.

I had misread your post, over looking "other details." Were you asking about my origin story, or the political stuff I outlined?...I don't have much more on the latter.

 

[perth_blue]

Funny, I wanted elaboration on the other details. Quality origin story. I want to hear more.

Ask him then.

 

[Martin Alvito]

I had misread your post, over looking "other details." Were you asking about my origin story, or the political stuff I outlined?...I don't have much more on the latter.

I was just saying that the background details on  why you believe what you believe were really interesting, and that if we were in the bar that's where I would have asked the follow-up questions.

I would have disregarded  what you believe as dull-as-dishwater by comparison, and I was startled that another poster passed all of that by and wanted to dig into the what.

 

[verreauxi]

I was just saying that the background details on  why you believe what you believe were really interesting, and that if we were in the bar that's where I would have asked the follow-up questions.

I would have disregarded  what you believe as dull-as-dishwater by comparison, and I was startled that another poster passed all of that by and wanted to dig into the what.

Ha, gotchya, that makes sense. We should get a drink some time!

 

[Martin Alvito]

Ask him then.

I did, just without the question mark.

Ha, gotchya, that makes sense. We should get a drink some time!

Tell me where, and if it's close enough I'll make it happen.