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No mate. Incompetent Iranians shot it down, now everyone and his dog is saying it was an accident. It wasn’t, they did it deliberately, but didn’t know it was an airliner full of ordinary people......
How many times have Iranian planes crashed this year? Just so happens that one gets downed when there's a massive potential confrontation and 'assets' on the ground are looking to get themselves out.

Hmmm.
 
That is the definition of incompetence........
If this was an SA-15 system as reported, then it has an integrated IFF system that should enable a well trained operator to tell the difference between a civilian airliner and a hostile aircraft.

It's likely that given the situation the operator messed up and didn't acknowledge the IFF sqwark or the IFF didn't work properly (poorly maintained kit).
 
Maybe if the leaders and decision makers who are responsible for military actions had to lead from the front line we would see fewer wars and less violence.

They always think nothing of sending young kids to die to satisy their own ego's
 
Maybe if the leaders and decision makers who are responsible for military actions had to lead from the front line we would see fewer wars and less violence.

They always think nothing of sending young kids to die to satisy their own ego's

I totally agree with this. If Blair had to send his sons to Iraq it wouldn’t have happened....
 
It's not though.

It's awful what happens in war. Totally horrible.

The fact is, the bloke the US killed has been helping a war in Syria keep going. Iran are pretty much the major player in the middle East along with the Saudis - another regime which is absolutely diabolical and it's even worse that the west backs.
The USA has been waging almost perpetual war all over the world since WW2, we are past a million civilian deaths in Iraq and would contend the American administration has killed far far more people all over the world than this guy, yet we are presented with America-good guy, Iran- bad guy in the press. We have moved on from Reds under every bed in the 50's and 60's, Muslims seem to have replaced Communists as the current target of liberation by the US
Vive la Liberation!
 
If this was an SA-15 system as reported, then it has an integrated IFF system that should enable a well trained operator to tell the difference between a civilian airliner and a hostile aircraft.

It's likely that given the situation the operator messed up and didn't acknowledge the IFF sqwark or the IFF didn't work properly (poorly maintained kit).
It's a bit like when all those cameras malfunctioned in Epstein's jail cell and all the guards fell asleep, incompetents no chance.
 
The USA has been waging almost perpetual war all over the world since WW2, we are past a million civilian deaths in Iraq and would contend the American administration has killed far far more people all over the world than this guy, yet we are presented with America-good guy, Iran- bad guy in the press. We have moved on from Reds under every bed in the 50's and 60's, Muslims seem to have replaced Communists as the current target of liberation by the US
Vive la Liberation!



Yep. Since 9/11, approximately 480,000 people have been directly killed by violence over the course of wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, more than 244,000 of them civilians. And they're generous estimates. Americans simply don't recognise the deaths of Muslims as deaths, or recognise the fact that they have no right to be there
 
Makes perfect sense though doesn't it, Iran launch missile strikes then they are on alert expecting the US to strike back and 5 hours later an airliner bursts into flames.

The black box will tell all, the pilots tried to return the plane to the airport, there will have been frantic conversations going on with air traffic control and the plane, lets see if those communications are made public.

Iran are bulldozing the crash site apparently, just seen on BBC 10pm news.
That'll be the same bulletin which showed a projectile climbing up from the ground and hitting it's target causing an explosion.
Sad event by any measure.
 
Yep. Since 9/11, approximately 480,000 people have been directly killed by violence over the course of wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, more than 244,000 of them civilians. And they're generous estimates. Americans simply don't recognise the deaths of Muslims as deaths, or recognise the fact that they have no right to be there
Ever heard of the Vietnam war and the decade long mass protests within the USA against the conflict? I use that as an example to demonstrate that the idea that people in the US don't care about others and the casualties of war is simply untrue. They are a hugely generous democracy with aid and support to others.

The US has a difficult role in trying to play world policeman. I dread to imagine the world in which they didn't! It certainly wouldn't be a safer one, I can guarantee you that. That doesn't mean actions can't be criticised or that there aren't occasionally some horrific acts of savagery and barbarism committed (as is true of most countries). Yet to claim that there is some hatred for non-American's is simply misplaced.

I wonder why other countries seem to get off light when we're talking about Muslims? What about the Uighur muslims in China? How many is it rumoured are in concentration camps there? For what crimes? It dwarves the figures above. Where are all the Muslim's speaking up for their own brethren? Where is your outrage at that? Does it have anything to do with the fact that it isn't America? Just curious.
 
I wonder why other countries seem to get off light when we're talking about Muslims? What about the Uighur muslims in China? How many is it rumoured are in concentration camps there? For what crimes? It dwarves the figures above. Where are all the Muslim's speaking up for their own brethren? Where is your outrage at that? Does it have anything to do with the fact that it isn't America? Just curious.

It's good that they've got you looking out for them. Who's concern begins and ends with them being a stick to beat other muslims with for not caring enough.
 
You don’t ‘accidentally’ fire off two missiles. Incompetence yes, deliberate yes, but not ‘accidental’. Now everyone is trying to wash it away...
Of course you do, the yanks do it all the time.
Dropping bombs on civilians and the British army is one of their favourite passtimes.
 
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