davek
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How many times have Iranian planes crashed this year? Just so happens that one gets downed when there's a massive potential confrontation and 'assets' on the ground are looking to get themselves out.
Hmmm.
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Hmmm.
If this was an SA-15 system as reported, then it has an integrated IFF system that should enable a well trained operator to tell the difference between a civilian airliner and a hostile aircraft.
It's likely that given the situation the operator messed up and didn't acknowledge the IFF sqwark or the IFF didn't work properly (poorly maintained kit).
peteblue
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I totally agree with this. If Blair had to send his sons to Iraq it wouldn’t have happened....
Agent Blue
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The USA has been waging almost perpetual war all over the world since WW2, we are past a million civilian deaths in Iraq and would contend the American administration has killed far far more people all over the world than this guy, yet we are presented with America-good guy, Iran- bad guy in the press. We have moved on from Reds under every bed in the 50's and 60's, Muslims seem to have replaced Communists as the current target of liberation by the US
Vive la Liberation!
Death
I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
didn’t you cheer when Iraq and Iran officials got drone striked?
Benedict
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It's a bit like when all those cameras malfunctioned in Epstein's jail cell and all the guards fell asleep, incompetents no chance.
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I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
it should be mandatory.
tommytowne
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He'll say sending his lad across London to a better school outside the borough was a far more dangerous experience than a war zone.
Yep. Since 9/11, approximately 480,000 people have been directly killed by violence over the course of wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, more than 244,000 of them civilians. And they're generous estimates. Americans simply don't recognise the deaths of Muslims as deaths, or recognise the fact that they have no right to be there
tommytowne
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That'll be the same bulletin which showed a projectile climbing up from the ground and hitting it's target causing an explosion.
Sad event by any measure.
Ever heard of the Vietnam war and the decade long mass protests within the USA against the conflict? I use that as an example to demonstrate that the idea that people in the US don't care about others and the casualties of war is simply untrue. They are a hugely generous democracy with aid and support to others.
The US has a difficult role in trying to play world policeman. I dread to imagine the world in which they didn't! It certainly wouldn't be a safer one, I can guarantee you that. That doesn't mean actions can't be criticised or that there aren't occasionally some horrific acts of savagery and barbarism committed (as is true of most countries). Yet to claim that there is some hatred for non-American's is simply misplaced.
I wonder why other countries seem to get off light when we're talking about Muslims? What about the Uighur muslims in China? How many is it rumoured are in concentration camps there? For what crimes? It dwarves the figures above. Where are all the Muslim's speaking up for their own brethren? Where is your outrage at that? Does it have anything to do with the fact that it isn't America? Just curious.
Lol these two words should be on Donald Trump's next line of campaign hats. The absolute go-to for donks who can't engage with the problem actually being talked about
Disgruntledgoat
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It's good that they've got you looking out for them. Who's concern begins and ends with them being a stick to beat other muslims with for not caring enough.
Agent Blue
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Of course you do, the yanks do it all the time.
Dropping bombs on civilians and the British army is one of their favourite passtimes.
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