if, god forbid, jags or distin got injured

[Big Fat Sam]

Here's a list of 'top class' centre backs Jags has been better than this season:

Vidic
Jones
Smalling
Mertersacker
Vermaelen
Sakho
Collocini
Vlaar
David Luiz

I'm bored now. He's been fine. Absolutely fine.

Scraping the barrel a bit, aren't you? Who on earth ever said Jones, Smalling, Sakho (completely unproven in the Premier League) and Vlaar are top class? And Vermaelen hasn't even played this season (has he?!), everybody knows David Luiz is a liability, Collocini is hardly a world class player and Vidic is clearly not the player he once was. At least come up with a good argument if you're going to try and beat me down and 'prove' that he's been in fantastic form this season! Honestly, Vlaar, Smalling, wtf!

He's been ok, yes. My point was, and is, that if we had to play Heitinga or Stones I wouldn't be too concerned. Is that such a problem?

 

[ijjysmith]

Oh butters.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Oh butters.

Just neg rep me mate, it's easier than losing an argument.

xxx

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

butters doing his best to win "gimmick poster of the year"

 

[ijjysmith]

Just neg rep me mate, it's easier than losing an argument.

xxx

Have I negged you?

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Have I negged you?

Meh, he seems to want you to

 

[Tubey]

Can't really understand how anyone can dislike Jagielka. Really good player, does an excellent job for us. I think you'd fine one Evertonian in a thousand who thought anything other than that.

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

I personally wouldn't be arsed at all if either/both of them got injured, as they've been below par all season so far aside from one or two standout games (Chelsea, for example). Constantly fannying around with the ball (I don't care if that's Martinez's tactics, you don't tiki taka pass it in a tight spot at the back) and being caught out of position due to lack of pace. I like them both personally, they seem like top blokes, but I wouldn't mind if Heitinga or even Stones were forced into the team; I actually think Heitinga could suit this system much better.

where I think your wrong in on the pace issue, there are not many quicker center back than Distin you don't often see him beaten for pace, and Jags is no slouch. But were I do agree with you and I've said this on other threads is that they are not good enough to play the way Martinez wants. They are ok when they are not under pressure, but as soon as any pressure is put on them they panic, and because Martinez wants them to play from the back they wont hoof it out of trouble and so mistakes are made. I'm sure the manager knows this and is planning for the future by giving Stones as much game time as he can, because I think this lad has a great future ahead of him.

 

[Joey66]

Yeah but the year before Heitinga was superb; he deserves a chance going off the recent form of our two favoured centre halves. I'd like to see him in alongside Distin - that provides the pace and power of Disty, and the coolness and slick passing of Heitinga. It could work. The problem there is obviously that there isn't much of a future there for the partnership, but if he helps us this season I'd be all for it. Still not convnced Jagielka is the right captain for us.

JH not superb anymore he is so slow he needs to be sold in Jan!

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Can't really understand how anyone can dislike Jagielka. Really good player, does an excellent job for us. I think you'd fine one Evertonian in a thousand who thought anything other than that.

I don't 'dislike' Jagielka! As a bloke he seems superb, and you can't question his committment to the club. And he is a good player. But his form on this season doesn't fill me with fear if he was to pick up an injury, that's all. Same with Distin. You ARE allowed to say that on here, aren't you?

 

[Bungle]

Just neg rep me mate, it's easier than losing an argument.

xxx

I just have mate, but I'd also like to add that you are a monsterous bellend.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Sorry butters, but I just can't take you seriously

You're one hell of a Troll though. I'll give you some mad props for that

 

[Tubey]

I don't 'dislike' Jagielka! As a bloke he seems superb, and you can't question his committment to the club. And he is a good player. But his form on this season doesn't fill me with fear if he was to pick up an injury, that's all. Same with Distin. You ARE allowed to say that on here, aren't you?

You are allowed to say it certainly - but it doesn't make you right. His form this season has been fine. Better than fine actually, he's been really good.

Just seems to be a bit of an irrational opinion, like you're seeing what you want to see rather than what is actually there. You are so far apart from the general concensus that people are trying to add a bit of logic to the situation, can't do so, and are coming to the conclusion that you're trolling.

 

[larrygobfiend]

Love Distin but he was a shower on Saturday. His passing was all over the shop - he was playing like he was p1ssed.

 

[micknick]

I just have mate, but I'd also like to add that you are a monsterous bellend.

Mate you know better than that. Lets cut out the name calling yeh.