2018/19 Idrissa Gueye

[BlueToff]

Would the fact he's a sitter mean he's more suited to the 6 that Silva wants? Not sure how expansive his passing range is but putting him in the middle to hold shape with Gomes and Sigurdsson either side as 8's sounds more like what Silva wants.

Would also like to add that I've seen 1 minute of a youtube compilation and some of the Libertadores final, but anyone who lays the head on "Hendo" is alright in my book.

and @mkrudden

Maybe, but people moan about Gana's indiscipline. This guy looks like an accident waiting to happen tbh. He's also no better on the ball than Gana is.

 

[GwladysBlue]

We should be selling players when the price is right, it’s where we are in the pack right now.

Sell Gueye and reinvest in somebody younger. He isn’t a world beater by any stretch.

 

[ToffeeTim]

He can't be easily replaced though Tim.

These types of players don't grow on trees. And the best ones don't come to an average side.

Sure, we could try for a poor man's Gana, and be in the same boat, except they aren't as good defensively. But what's the point?

We need a Doucoure/Ndombele class player to push us on - do either of those look likely to come in the middle of the season. Are there others out there? Sure, but are they going to be available.

You do not sell your best players in the middle of the season.

I don't need to go over my thoughts in detail again. I don't rate him. I don't like building our midfield around a player who's abilities are out of posession. I think we need to replace him or we will never improve. This is premier league football. We need good all round central midfielders.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I like how we disregard how age works when we want to make a point, poor Gueye has just lost 8 months of his life here to try and emphasise the point on an internet forum that he isn't needed.

Correct.

Anyone over the age of 25 is pretty much 30 in my book.

Myself included lol

 

[BlueToff]

I don't need to go over my thoughts in detail again. I don't rate him. I don't like building our midfield around a player who's abilities are out of posession. I think we need to replace him or we will never improve. This is premier league football. We need good all round central midfielders.

If we go and get Weigl from Dortmund, sound. Maybe we'll be onto something. Maybe Barrios could do a job. He isn't as good as Gueye.

If not we're letting a fantastic player go without having a quality replacement in - which is stupid.

 

[BlueToff]

We should be selling players when the price is right, it’s where we are in the pack right now.

Sell Gueye and reinvest in somebody younger. He isn’t a world beater by any stretch.

Which in and of itself isn't an awful strategy.

But you don't do it in the middle of the season.

 

[vinvinvin]

If we sell him and sign someone who means we can stop playing 4-2-3-1 then I'm all for it.

 

[Lanolin]

Hahaha... "bear with me".

Oh no... Please don't go too fast, I won't be able to keep up with your lightning wit and observation skills.

And all because I see the logical floor in the argument that Gueye, who struggles against poorer opposition, would actually thrive against teams who press high and are more composed on the ball.

You are right about 1 thing though, we need an improvement on Gueye.

It's not a logical flaw (or floor if you prefer) though, which is the point being made. You're seemingly just completely incapable of understanding that different skillsets can be useful in different situations, no matter how slowly I go, so we'll leave it there.

 

[mkrudden]

I don't need to go over my thoughts in detail again. I don't rate him. I don't like building our midfield around a player who's abilities are out of posession. I think we need to replace him or we will never improve. This is premier league football. We need good all round central midfielders.

Not for me to try and persuade you to rate him Tim but are you happy as a fan to sanction his sale when you have no idea who, if anyone, we have lined up to replace him for the rest of the season?

What if we can't get anyone? we'd be left with Davies, Schneiderlin, Beni and Gomes.

Seems high risk. Effectively you'd be happy to write off the season and with it any justification for criticising Silva? We can't win the games if we have no-one to win the ball for us.

 

[mkrudden]

If we sell him and sign someone who means we can stop playing 4-2-3-1 then I'm all for it.

what what system would you play?

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Get him gone and get Tom Davies in the side.

Just kidding. Imagine that! Unless we have a replacement lined up for the long term then Gay stays.

 

[BlueToff]

Chuppo-Moting.

That’s a weirder signing actually. Well done Neil.

Tuchel, I believe, had him at a previous club. Or liked him from his days at Schalke.

 

[Goat]

what what system would you play?

Silva prefers 4-3-3, neither Gana or Iceland suit this system, the way Silva wants anyway.

I mean we could always just get another manager.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

I don't need to go over my thoughts in detail again. I don't rate him. I don't like building our midfield around a player who's abilities are out of posession. I think we need to replace him or we will never improve. This is premier league football. We need good all round central midfielders.

Wait, so his main attributes are winning back the ball, and he has about the highest pass % on our team. How is he BAD in possession?

This also just in - Silva does not care that much about possession. I'm sure he would like - as would Brands - better passers. No question.

But good luck replacing this guy or shall I say Gueye.

Here's my favorite part about this logic - PSG want him. Any replacement we can find, well, PSG could've bought them too, but they didn't.

I'll tell you what - you want to upgrade from Gana? Cool. Throw a 60M bid at Chelsea for Kante. He's clearly playing out of position on the right, Sarri is pushing for winger after winger, he LOVES Jorginho, see what they say. THAT would be ambitious. THAT would be a game changer.

 

[Nymzee]

Silva prefers 4-3-3, neither Gana or Iceland suit this system, the way Silva wants anyway.

I mean we could always just get another manager.

#RhinoIn