Current Affairs How old were you when you grew up and stopped voting Labour?

[Number_25]

Thats the one that made the situation the same between private and LA rentals?

Look, I dont want this to become a tit for tat bore fest, the point I made was that lad said he had never voted Labour and he gets jumped on. As a Socialist myself, apparently, @magicjuan I find the berating of anyone not in tune to your views and a free target unseemly.

Surely I'm free to question anyone I like? If you don't like someone questioning your views, go find a mirror to argue with - you might have fun.

 

[zzr45]

"Labour hate them, sure Corbyn would paint them as great repressors of the poor peasant underclass. For me, Labours message has always been a guilt trip. Don’t buy it."

Labour hates nobody, as a party we just want to provide opportunity to those without.

What's your problem with sharing wealth as to ensure that opportunity is provided to those that can make the most out of it - and in doing so increase the life chances of the ones less fortunate than yourself?

Why? Because what I earn, what my family is exactly that. It’s not a charity pot for others. Tax is fair enough but I’m not working half a week to support others. It’s been drilled in my head since being a youth that if you want something you go and get it. Whether it means working 60, 70 hours a week or whatever else. Yes there are people less fortunate than me, but they have the same ability to go out and put hard work in.

 

[rascal]

Surely that's the point of a Labour government? I'm sorry, but I'm failing to understand what exactly the Tories have done for 'ordinary working people'? Wages have stagnated? Rent has gone up?

What exactly do you see here?

Off the top of my head:

Taken the lowest earners out of paying income tax altogether.
The introduction of the National Living Wage.
Scrapping letting agency fees.
Extending student loans to include Masters students.

 

[roydo]

Surely I'm free to question anyone I like? If you don't like someone questioning your views, go find a mirror to argue with - you might have fun.

No, its the passive aggressive approach mate. I actually share many of your views, but I dont like seeing folk jumped on in an way that makes them seem unworthy of your higher moral fibre.

 

[Walken]

See, I was waiting for just that sort of reaction. The lad explained why he had never voted Labour, and straight away, a knee high studs up response.

As to your point about the education of the front bench, and being out of touch, that applies to many, many MPs.

and deserved, tories are little better than vermin, starving people to death for their own benefit

 

[Number_25]

Why? Because what I earn, what my family is exactly that. It’s not a charity pot for others. Tax is fair enough but I’m not working half a week to support others. It’s been drilled in my head since being a youth that if you want something you go and get it. Whether it means working 60, 70 hours a week or whatever else. Yes there are people less fortunate than me, but they have the same ability to go out and put hard work in.

The opportunity isn't there in the first place, mate.

 

[Walken]

Typical right wing response, ignore the argument - focus on the wording.

he has picked and chosen very selectively what posts to respond to in this thread

 

[Number_25]

and deserved, tories are little better than vermin, starving people to death for their own benefit

One of my earliest memories is my nan telling me (in a flood of tears) about the food-shortages during the Miners strikes.

£100bn of North Sea Oil wasted on Yuppies, whilst good, honest, working people starved.

Toryism.

 

[roydo]

he has picked and chosen very selectively what posts to respond to in this thread

Who? Me?

Just trying to keep things friendly. It was a light hearted thread.

 

[Number_25]

It's not a tit-for-tat playground game.

Politics has real implications on real people.

 

[roydo]

One of my earliest memories is my nan telling me (in a flood of tears) about the food-shortages during the Miners strikes.

£100bn of North Sea Oil wasted on Yuppies, whilst good, honest, working people starved.

Toryism.

Would not disagree with a word of that.

 

[Walken]

Who? Me?

Just trying to keep things friendly. It was a light hearted thread.

as you said, you were waiting for that response, with a pre planned attack

 

[roydo]

It's not a tit-for-tat playground game.

Politics has real implications on real people.

Thanks. I know that.

 

[Number_25]

Thanks. I know that.

And yet you seem bemused at my negative responses?

 

[roydo]

as you said, you were waiting for that response, with a pre planned attack

Oh gee whizz. Paranoia now.

I have hardly posted in this till tonight, when I noticed the lads post, and thought it wont take long till he is shot down. For having a different opinion.