Current Affairs How old were you when you grew up and stopped voting Labour?

[Walken]

Well, some of the posts on here have certainly been illuminating. Racisms all good when it comes from the left.

That's a disgusting accusation, and your thinly veiled point scoring really does sum you up as an individual

 

[zzr45]

That's a disgusting accusation, and your thinly veiled point scoring really does sum you up as an individual

Accusation? I’m sorry, but if some people can come out with some of the tripe that they have been on here then it’s racism in its purest form. There’s even people trying to shift the blame on to Jews for being offended.

Calling point scoring, call it whatever, I’m more than happy to point out the hypocrisy of the left that rejoices in laughing at knuckledraggers on the right, whilst ignoring the same attitude on their side of the fence.

But you’re a good guy because you support social ideals, anyone that thinks differently must be bad. Mmhmm.

 

[Moomin]

Accusation? I’m sorry, but if some people can come out with some of the tripe that they have been on here then it’s racism in its purest form. There’s even people trying to shift the blame on to Jews for being offended.

Calling point scoring, call it whatever, I’m more than happy to point out the hypocrisy of the left that rejoices in laughing at knuckledraggers on the right, whilst ignoring the same attitude on their side of the fence.

But you’re a good guy because you support social ideals, anyone that thinks differently must be bad. Mmhmm.

Quote the racist posts fella.

 

[zzr45]

Quote the racist posts fella.

The lady on radio 4 put it right today, there is a Jewish agenda against Jeremy and certain members of the labour party NOT because they are anti-semitic but because they are pro-palestinian.

The way they deal with this nowadays is to brand you anti-semitic, it is disgusting.

Why has an absolute non-story from six years ago about a mural been dredged up at this point in time?

There's two for starters, one with some fairly implicit overtones and one with denial written all over it.

As I've alluded to, if it was May certain posters on here would be calling for May to be publicly flogged whilst reminiscing about how they played with their dreidel as a kid.

 

[bol-uk]

Hahaha.......I’m not against you I’m just for your enemies......or should we see this differently......

He sympathises with an occupied people and disagrees with the actions of the occupying army. Just because the occupying army happen to be Jewish does not make him anti-semitic,contrary to how they try to portray/twist it.No big mystery mate.

 

[davek]

It's utterly ridiculous that anyone who criticises the Israeli state for it's aggressive militaristic foreign policy towards it's neigbours is accused of being anti-Semitic. Religion and politics really need to be seen as being separate entities.

What we're seeing is an unholy alliance between the Tories, Blairites, Zionists and the media (more especially the depraved BBC) to try and unseat (for the second time in 18 months) a democratically elected leader of the Labour Party.

These people are out of control. They threaten the very existence of political choice and the right to take an opposing viewpoint to the failed neo-liberal project.

 

[peteblue]

So there are 'representatives' that will represent on their terms and for their interests only, not follow the wishes of members and policy formed in the correct manner. Boo hoo for them. It is the single biggest issue amongst the political masses, that the people don't count, yet you yourself constantly remind us of the legitimacy of the brexit vote. Goose, gander?
Russia, really. 21st century McCarthyism, cold war posturing versus diplomatic go through the proper procedures and provide evidence before poking the bear.
Many in the west have been and still are itching for a major conflict. This one is beginning to get scarier and if you want to go fight the cossacks then do so, I'll stay here thanks.

No. If you read my views within the EU in or out thread, one of the reasons I want out is because I believe that the EU will at some point cause unnecessary conflict with Russia. For my part I would much prefer to have friendly relations with them, but they only recognise power, and when they start to take the mick, as they did with this nerve gas, then they should be called out.......Corbyn failed the test......

 

[peteblue]

Bought and paid for by the Israeli lobby she is.

I just watched her on Newsnight and it's clear one of the objectives here is to have the word Zionist taking out of the political lexicon. That's what she means when she refers to "left wing anti-semitism". Anti-Zionism is a legitimate critique of the religious fundamentalist and apartheid Israeli state - every bit as reprehensible as the South African apartheid regime was.

She and the rest of her deplorable crew won't get away with it. There's no way that condemnation of the Israeli state will be silenced, nor will the boycotts against it.

I think she knows far more about the subject than both you or I. I also thought she gave sound advice to Corbyn in this respect, but apart from a few grovelling apologies I doubt he will listen or learn......

 

[davek]

I think she knows far more about the subject than both you or I. I also thought she gave sound advice to Corbyn in this respect, but apart from a few grovelling apologies I doubt he will listen or learn......

She has a massive axe to grind as a lobbyist for Israeli interests and she's taking her opportunity (again) to use it.

I hope her, Woodcock, Berger and all the other north west Labour MPs in open revolt are enjoying themselves right now, because the half a million membership will soon have their democratic say.

 

[peteblue]

She has a massive axe to grind as a lobbyist for Israeli interests and she's taking her opportunity (again) to use it.

I hope her, Woodcock, Berger and all the other north west Labour MPs in open revolt are enjoying themselves right now, because the half a million membership will soon have their democratic say.

Well I suppose being born into a Jewish family she might do that.

They did at the last election in spite of momentum trying to get her deselected......

And this is why I say Corbyn is divisive. He will not take the party into power, he will turn it into his own image and make it unelectable and that will be a disaster for the country......

 

[Blue 1]

There's two for starters, one with some fairly implicit overtones and one with denial written all over it.

As I've alluded to, if it was May certain posters on here would be calling for May to be publicly flogged whilst reminiscing about how they played with their dreidel as a kid.

Get in the bin, calling me a [Poor language removed] racist.

If it wasn't a non-story something would've been made of it years ago.

You think there's nothing cynical about it being bought up now?

 

[zzr45]

Get in the bin, calling me a [Poor language removed] racist.

If it wasn't a non-story something would've been made of it years ago.

You think there's nothing cynical about it being bought up now?

If it’s being brought up as some cynical ploy, why wasn’t it brought up last year before the General Election?

Someone’s flagged it up for what it is, an endorsement of anti semitism whether intentional or not. It comes at a time when the Labour Party is under the microscope for anti-Semitism.

The fact you’ve called it a non-story speaks volumes and illuminates the points people are making tremendously well.

 

[davek]

Well I suppose being born into a Jewish family she might do that.

They did at the last election in spite of momentum trying to get her deselected......

And this is why I say Corbyn is divisive. He will not take the party into power, he will turn it into his own image and make it unelectable and that will be a disaster for the country......

No, selfish MPs like her - who's priority is the state of Israel not British social democracy - make it a potential disaster for the country. Their role within the LP is to drag its policy as far as it can possibly go toward backing (or at least ignoring) the Israeli state on its mission of land grabs on the West Bank and to harass the Gaza population. THAT is your friend's priority, not the election of a LP committed to tackling the causes of poverty and injustice here in Britain.

 

[neil999]

Well I suppose being born into a Jewish family she might do that.

They did at the last election in spite of momentum trying to get her deselected......

And this is why I say Corbyn is divisive. He will not take the party into power, he will turn it into his own image and make it unelectable and that will be a disaster for the country......

Politics/elections are so weird at the moment that it seems very difficult to predict anything!

 

[tsubaki]

If it’s being brought up as some cynical ploy, why wasn’t it brought up last year before the General Election?

Someone’s flagged it up for what it is, an endorsement of anti semitism whether intentional or not. It comes at a time when the Labour Party is under the microscope for anti-Semitism.

The fact you’ve called it a non-story speaks volumes and illuminates the points people are making tremendously well.

er - it (antisemitism in Labour) was brought up last year before the election, and this exact story was raised in 2015 just after Corbyn became leader

There is a real issue with the beliefs of some who Corbyn has been associated with and who are demonstrably anti-semites, and there should be a much greater focus on what people who appear to support a position on a specific topic are actually about (as well as shutting down the loon element on the left, if for no other reason that they are largely useless), but its also clear that the attacks on Corbyn are coming from the same people who have been attacking him on every other issue ever since it became clear he would beat them in any kind of democratic contest.