Current Affairs How do we tackle terrorism?

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Its a tough one really. All the attackers had been reported to the police, by the muslim community and the relevant action wasnt taken.

We was warned by the EU regarding the Italian Morrican and we allowed him in.

We have to stop things like this slipping through the net. Communities need to work together with the security services.

The communities we're though weren't they ? People were reported but , my guess is , resources and prioritisation means they slip through a net . Also the cuts to community policing , by May , who was also against control orders have almost certainly impacted .


Oh lord!! So now it's our fault??

No but Your tactics would absolutely lead to a increase in IS support . Why wouldn't it ? That's what happens with interment.
 
For starters I wouldn't be arrogant enough to think I'm even remotely qualified enough to give an opinion on the subject worth a [Poor language removed], let alone claim I've got a solution figured out.

Id let the experts whose lives have been dedicated to studying terrorism try and come up with a solution. Most experts seem to be of the impression that your solution (which I quoted previously) would end up making things worse.
I am far from qualified just like you but has it got to the point were you don't or can't have an opinion now???
 
No mate you haven't you stumbled across someone who is not scared to speak my mind!! I don't buy into this PC pulava.. I know there is s lot more people who agree with me but are too scared to be labelled a 'racist' which I'm not BTW.

Anyway that's my view how would you keep our streets safe from terrorism??

Respecting the rule of law , believing in habius corpus and trial by jury doesn't make me PC it makes me English .
 
How would it???? That's insane!! So we have people walking our streets who are willing to kill citizens having a good time, and I want rid of them!! How is that inciting extremist behaviour??

What do you think we should do??

If you can't see how then I can't help you.

What should be done is an extremely difficult, self inflicted problem by the West. At the end of the day it's about education and opportunity. Uneducated people who don't have opportunity are easily swayed but extremism because it gives them a sense of meaning...a purpose.
 
I am far from qualified just like you but has it got to the point were you don't or can't have an opinion now???

You can have an opinion but that doesn't mean it's going to hold the same weight as someone who has spent their life studying ways to counter terrorism.

Daily Mail readers have opinions but they are nearly always born out of emotion and lack of education rather than rational thought process. When you can't separate your emotions from a subject you're rarely able to look at things objectively and give worthwhile opinions.
 
I see Iran have blamed our great ally Saudi Arabia for the IS terrorist attack they've suffered whilst the Saudi national football team refused to respect the minutes silence for the London attack when playing Australia.

Who needs enemies hey ?
 
Activists are being charged under terrorism laws for the first time in Britain – this sets a dangerous precedent
On Monday a group of fifteen people will appear in court in Chelmsford, charged with terrorism offences. Their crime? Blocking the take-off of a plane deporting people from Britain against their will. The maximum sentence? Life in prison.

The plane in question was a charter flight set to remove 57 people in a mass deportation in March last year. For many of us in Britain, mass deportations of this style are something we know little or nothing of – and that’s no coincidence. These secret flights don’t carry regular passengers, just deportees and double their number in private security guards. The flights take off late at night from undisclosed locations, hiding them from public view.

The process isn’t just secretive – it is brutal andlegally dubious too. Just last year the Supreme Court found that the “deport first, appeal later” policy was unlawful. The personal stories of those facing deportation, meanwhile, are shocking. Many are sent to countries where they have no family – sometimes after many yearsbuilding a life in Britain, torn apart from close family here. People like William (not his real name) who had been a resident in the UK for 14 years, and held in detention for over six months before being set for deportation earlier this year. His youngest daughter is eight years old and regularly wakes up from nightmares where she is separated from her Dad.

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Others are LGBT+ people who face persecution in the country they are being sent to – like Abbey Kyeyune, who fled Uganda after his family members discovered that he was having a relationship with another man, and was then threatened with deportation from Britain.

An astounding 41 per cent of immigration rulings are overturned on appeal, casting serious doubt over the Home Office’s ability to make fair decisions, and making it doubly appalling to see people dragged away from their families, handcuffed and forcibly strapped into plane seats.

In this context, it is easy to see why people are protesting against mass deportation – from writing to their MPs, to protesting outside the Home Office and, yes, taking non-violent direct action. People took to the tarmac and blocked a plane leaving Stansted in March last year because they felt they had no other route to stop this injustice. The action took place on a parking bay far away from the main runways and people going on holiday, with the activists dressed in bright pink, to ensure that they were visible.

Those involved are facing trumped up charges from the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), using the threat of life in prison under the Aviation and Maritime Security Act. This law, which was designed to protect strategic sites such as ports and airports, has never before been targeted at activists. Indeed the only record to my knowledge of it being used concerns a helicopter pilot who had flown too close to a control tower in the context of a dispute with an airport’s owner.

It is hard to understand why the CPS is using this obscure law to prosecute these protesters. But I worry about the potential political motivations behind their decision, too. Are the authorities threatening disproportionate sentences to scare off future protests – and to allow the government’s deportation regime to continue unhindered?

What I do know is that the threat of jail for those who peacefully put their bodies on the line to stop the forced removal of people from Britain is a profound overreaction that should be reviewed immediately.

This is not the first time that the establishment has threatened peaceful people with jail terms – and the actions of those who took to the tarmac at Stansted follows in the footsteps of many brave people who have put their bodies in the way of state violence. As Margaret Mead famously said, we should “never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has”.

Whatever happens over the course of the next few weeks’ trial, I have no doubt that history will absolve the Stansted defendants – and condemn Britain’s brutal use of mass deportation.

Caroline Lucas is the co-leader of the Green Party
 
I've never really understood this narrative that people will uproot themselves and come to a new country, often in very dangerous circumstances, to then sit on their bum and collect [non-existent] welfare cheques. I'm sure there are many reasons for moving to another country, but I can't imagine that is high up on the list for anyone. Indeed, a mobile labour market is a very good thing in general, and there's a lot to suggest that the native population would benefit greatly from moving for work, whether within the UK or internationally. It's ironic I suppose that many of those who oppose migrants the most are those who are unwilling to move themselves.
 
I'm glad that this domestic terrorist bomber who was terrorizing Austin TX has blown himself up and removed himself from society. I have to go to Austin TX in two weeks so I know I'll breathe easier--must be a massive relief for the citizens there.
 
I've never really understood this narrative that people will uproot themselves and come to a new country, often in very dangerous circumstances, to then sit on their bum and collect [non-existent] welfare cheques. I'm sure there are many reasons for moving to another country, but I can't imagine that is high up on the list for anyone. Indeed, a mobile labour market is a very good thing in general, and there's a lot to suggest that the native population would benefit greatly from moving for work, whether within the UK or internationally. It's ironic I suppose that many of those who oppose migrants the most are those who are unwilling to move themselves.

Norman Tebbit got pilloried for saying ‘he got on his bike and looked for work until he found it’........
 
I'm glad that this domestic terrorist bomber who was terrorizing Austin TX has blown himself up and removed himself from society. I have to go to Austin TX in two weeks so I know I'll breathe easier--must be a massive relief for the citizens there.

From a tactics perspective, it's interesting how terrorizing a relatively ineffective string of attacks can be. It's highly likely a single vehicle or gun attack would have done far more human damage, but because that would be a one-off incident, it would have been less paralyzing, I think. You could sort of move on, going "fortunate I wasn't there for that."

Meanwhile, a sustained barrage of small attacks, by a delivery method (no pun intended) that most people relate to and few saw coming (Amazon/Fed Ex deliveries) understandably freaked people out.
 
I've never really understood this narrative that people will uproot themselves and come to a new country, often in very dangerous circumstances, to then sit on their bum and collect [non-existent] welfare cheques. I'm sure there are many reasons for moving to another country, but I can't imagine that is high up on the list for anyone. Indeed, a mobile labour market is a very good thing in general, and there's a lot to suggest that the native population would benefit greatly from moving for work, whether within the UK or internationally. It's ironic I suppose that many of those who oppose migrants the most are those who are unwilling to move themselves.

Without wishing to veer too far off topic, it’s interesting to talk to people who have moved here, or want to move here about their idea of how they imagine the uk to be. A friend of mine from Sierra Leone couldn’t believe it when he saw people sleeping rough on the streets.
Also, referring to your last sentence, some of the most bigoted and racist people I’ve met when abroad, have been expats.
 
From a tactics perspective, it's interesting how terrorizing a relatively ineffective string of attacks can be. It's highly likely a single vehicle or gun attack would have done far more human damage, but because that would be a one-off incident, it would have been less paralyzing, I think. You could sort of move on, going "fortunate I wasn't there for that."

Meanwhile, a sustained barrage of small attacks, by a delivery method (no pun intended) that most people relate to and few saw coming (Amazon/Fed Ex deliveries) understandably freaked people out.

I agree. And for some reason this incident got me reading the wikipedia page on the Maryland/Beltway sniper attacks. Talk about a vicious and paralyzing approach. I didn't realize that John Allen Muhammed, the older one, had "practiced" killing people out west prior to going on a full-blown shooting spree in Maryland/Virginia.
 
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